[Closed] 88

Hi,

I assume that you lost the hand quite bad.
Villain is already one stack up and he calls your preflop raise in position.
His line has so much strength, that in think he has a FH on turn already.
Although he should raise a set on drawy flop.
Next time, please c/f at least river, if not the turn already. The 6 is a bad card, as he'd call you again on turn with 9x.

Let's see what the judges think.

Best regards,
Anin

I think if you cbet the flop you should make it bigger, $10 should be better to protect properly and also because you wouldn't bet so small if you had a strong hand.

But you can also go for a check on the flop, the cbet looks strong but I doubt you fold out better hands (and both their ranges hit this board a lot).

Furthermore there are a lot of cards you can't continue on on the turn, so basically your hand is not much better than (for example) Q9o.

As played either bet big on the turn to represent a strong hand or don't bet at all, by betting so small you achieve nothing.
His call on the flop is strong, he is not going to fold TP+ at any point in the hand if you bet so small.

As played I'd also c/f the river, as you bet so small he could easily have a straightdraw and even some hands like A9 could actually go for a thin valuebet.

I can make it bigger, yep, but he never folds FD on the flop anyway. If I check I can not ch/c, there is just no way to play profitable after ch/c...

What do I achieve with big turn bet? He is maybe folding his FD and that is it. Maybe - because his FD mostly is with overcards and he will continue. If I bet big he will most likely fold his weak pairs 44-55 77. I don't see him folding TP to the big bet here.

What do I achieve if I bet small? He should raise his strong hands. He will raise his set on the flop most of the time, if he has not, he will do that on the turn to build up the pot. He will raise also trips. When calling such a small bet his range is almost always very weak. My hand is not so strong that I need to defend it much, I might be also behind already e.g. TT

There is no straight dro as I have 88, only 2 combinations of 78 are possible 78 spades will raise either flop either turn good amount of time. and it is very unlikely he has straight flush on the river

On the river I doubt that kind of player will valuebet 9x. A9 will be happy to get to SD, 98 is unlikely. And if betting such a big bet - what hands will call that? 77/88? I believe he would bet smaller. He also check behind his 77 or smaller pairs.

I think he can only bet w Tx on the river.

My check on the flop is in order to c/f, not to c/c.

Since we're OOP we will always have a hard time playing, and by cbetting (as I already said) I think our EV is just not too good.

It seems weak to give up the hand but we will be forced to b/f or give up the hand at some point oftentimes.

his calling range is 15%... I don't there many paired hands and 9x...
which board would you like to see with 88 then? AKQ?

My most important argument for check/folding is not the board but the fact that we're 3way on the flop.

HU I might cbet against either one of them, but 3way since you're playing against two ranges your foldequity decreases dramatically - the drawheavy-ness of the board is just an additional factor that weighs even heavier since now there are not only two ranges but both of them actually hit the board.

Hero shows two pair, Eights and Sixes
8♦ 8♣
Endorphine58 shows
3♦ 4♦

That's what I'm talking about: You were in a best case scenario (1 opponent folds and one calls you with a draw) and you still only had 58% equity on the flop.

Yes I understand. But still I managed to win that pot because of a stupid play of that guy.