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[Closed] NL100 SH: AK in a 3bet pot, overbet jam on river

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Full Tilt - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

INVALID POS: $159.50
Hero (SB): $108.70
UTG: $67.45
CO: $100.00
BTN: $39.60

INVALID POS posts SB $0.50, Hero posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $1.50) Hero has A♥ K♥

fold, CO raises to $3.50, fold, fold, Hero raises to $11.00, CO calls $7.50

Flop: ($22.50, 2 players) 8♥ 5♦ T♥
Hero bets $14.00, CO calls $14.00

Turn: ($50.50, 2 players) T♠
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($50.50, 2 players) A♦
Hero bets $83.70 and is all-in

villain is 19/15/2.5/32 with 8% 3bet and 65% fold to 3bet pf. 250 hands
out 3bet history included 3bets and folds from each other. (we played some hands hu on the table)
My plan was c/rai the turn since I suspected he is floating me.
when he checked behind I realized he has some SD value (66,77,99,A8,AJ,AQ or just want to see a free river with a fd or gutshots type of hands)
on the river it's like always a nuts/air jam, trying to convince villain to make an hero call against a funky line.


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Purity
Joined: 28.01.2008

Like you said I also think villain has showdownvalue here like 5x/8x/66/77/99 and maybe sometimes Tx.

Then on the river I think all his worse hands are almost always going to fold to a bet or shove. And if he has Ax he will bet himself if you check.

So I like shoving against someone who you have had a history with and there has been some agressive dynamic between you guys
=> For the reason you stated, to try and force a herocall on villain

If there hasn't been much dynamic etc I like c/c more. Because I expect all those weakish mid pairs with showdown value to fold almost 100% of the time and worse Ax hands will still value bet themselves when you check.
=> So this way you stil get value out of Ax and bluffs and you save money against Tx or fullhouse.

Also I think the extra value u get out of worse Ax hands by shoving or c/shoving is almost non-existent because I don't see alot of Ax hands that would call the flop.


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

I thought about this hand for quite a while now, all options are close and I'm still not sure if it's better to c/c or c/r the turn.

On the river however I think it's better to bet with a normal betsize, like 1/2-2/3 pot. I agree with Purity that the opponent has Ax very rarely. He also rarely has busted draws as they would bet the turn imo, so we're mostly looking on the medium pairs you already mentioned.
Since we can't expect them neither to bet themselves nor to call an overbet imo the only option left is to bet with a "normal" betsize.