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[Closed] NL100 SH: QQ in 3bet pot on K high flop

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Full Tilt - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $185.80
BTN: $112.45
SB: $35.50
Hero (BB): $107.65
UTG: $220.50
MP: $269.90

SB posts SB $0.50, Hero posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $1.50) Hero has Q♥ Q♦

fold, fold, CO raises to $3.00, fold, fold, Hero raises to $11.00, CO calls $8.00

Flop: ($22.50, 2 players) 5♥ K♦ T♥
Hero bets $13.00, CO raises to $41.00, fold

I had solid stats on that table, villain is 25/20/3
fold to 3bet pf 5/10 over 132 hands.
Default b/f without any reads?


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

I think so. The only thing I would change is the size of cbet. I think with AK on this board you probably bet more like $17-18 and since we want to rep that hand (or better) we need to bet like we mean it.
Maybe judge can confirm; bet sizing is one of my biggest problems...


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

Imo the 1/2 pot-bet is fine.
It's also my standard-betsize for every 3bet pot - HU-scenario on the flop.
Usually you don't need to protect too much, this is almost always a wa/wb situation.
Here he can't even have A :heart:Q :heart:, and Q :heart:J :heart: so the only dangerous drawing hands left are A :heart:J :heart: and 2 combinations of QJs.

We bet bigger in normal raised pots because we want to be able to get as much of our stack in as possible, in a 3bet pot like this you can 1/2 pot on all streets and still be all in comfortably by the river.


Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

We bet bigger in normal raised pots because we want to be able to get as much of our stack in as possible, in a 3bet pot like this you can 1/2 pot on all streets and still be all in comfortably by the river.

I see - thanks for that. So its not really about protection.


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

Originally posted by Tim64

We bet bigger in normal raised pots because we want to be able to get as much of our stack in as possible, in a 3bet pot like this you can 1/2 pot on all streets and still be all in comfortably by the river.

I see - thanks for that. So its not really about protection.

It still depends, when you're up against a fish who will call in any case I'd still bet bigger, but in general 1/2 pot bets are so close to optimal against the majority of ranges of regs that I usually stick to it.
And even if it was non-optimal or even bad because they have a lot of draws which they get the odds to call with - most of the time they're raising with them anyway, so you're actually protecting more by betting smaller because it induces raises.