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[Closed] AQo, pot odds, nut draws

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NL Holdem $30(BB) Replayer
SB ($1,320)
BB ($1,800)
UTG ($3,060)
UTG+1 ($1,410)
Hero ($1,500)
MP1 ($1,500)
CO ($1,455)
BTN ($1,455)

Dealt to Hero Q♠ A♦

UTG raises to $60, UTG+1 calls $60, Hero calls $60, fold, CO calls $60, fold, SB calls $45, BB calls $30

FLOP ($360) A♠ K♠ J♦

SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $30, UTG+1 raises to $120, Hero calls $120, CO raises to $1,395 (AI), SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $1,275

Villain is somewhat tight (i think)
1. As played, i think i just have enough to call here. He's probably on 2 pair. Hands he most probably had AJ, KJ, QT, JJ. Maybe AK, AQ but i don't think so. Maybe some worse aces too.
We have 40% against the range with out draw to a better 2 pair, nut straight and backdoor nut flush.

2. I didn't raise it preflop because i didn't want to bloat the pot (Will have to raise to 240 and i will still get called twice many times). But the worst possible scenario happened here i guess, multiway with a super drawy board. Would have avoided it if i raised pre.


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arinho
Joined: 30.11.2007

I would call pre too...as you mentioned to not bloat the pot...

on the flop I would fold to that push....there were so many people in the pot and a draw heavy board.....so its very likely that he has you beat or that he is on a very strong draw....

better to save chips for later


Tbh I would fold this preflop if you don't decide to 3bet, with just calling you are pretty certain to be 4-5 handed at least and AQo is not that great in those. (someone could probably squeeze as well, with 5 ppl to act behind you)

As played I think its a clear fold on the flop - He has J + :spade: s at the very best for us - and we flip against that as well. I think at least 50% of time he shows up with QT in this kind of action.


Forgot to say, even if you are 45-50% against his range (which i doubt) it still a fold early in sng imo.

p.s. I fail at editing (used quote instead of it)


I have no choice but to raise preflop your begging people to join you postflop otherwise.

Also, On this flop I get it in.

You have a straight draw the nut flush draw (back door) and top pair good kicker.

After the raise and the flat call you should have pushed yourself IMO.

Next time raise this hand preflop or fold it.


Hlynkinn
Joined: 14.06.2008

I'm so tight preflop that this is a clear fold to me...
Might call with AQs.. but AQo should be a raise or fold here.. and folding seems easier to me lol :)

as played
The flop is just awesome lol..
I think I might honestly just 3bet this myself to 360 and go broke vs shoves...
when you just flat call and someone goes over the top I think his range is pretty polarized to a range your not doing too good against (flush draws would just call and so on and so on).. and so early in a sng you should just cut your losses and fold...


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

You can just muck it preflop. As played I would call the 120 on the flop and call the shove as played. Pot is too big for us to ignore our good equity in it. I think calling the flop is a better play btw as there aren't that many bad turncards for us, and it's hard to get value from worse with a raise.

AQs is a clear call preflop IMO. As is AJs


Originally posted by chenny8888
Hi all,

You can just muck it preflop. As played I would call the 120 on the flop and call the shove as played. Pot is too big for us to ignore our good equity in it. I think calling the flop is a better play btw as there aren't that many bad turncards for us, and it's hard to get value from worse with a raise.

AQs is a clear call preflop IMO. As is AJs

You would prefer to call preflop with AQs instead of raising?


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Vs a raise in front I don't want to 3bet AQs and isolate myself against better hands