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[Closed] AK on BB

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dylboi011
Joined: 20.04.2010

$8 mtt deep and steep, how bad is my line here?

no reads on villain but is probably typical pkr fishtard

sry about hh i cant get on HEM and there are no other supported convertors

Table #30860517 - Tournament #18612077 Table #13
Starting Hand #1447298293
Start time of hand: 06 Sep 2010 21:23:00
Last Hand #1447296135
Game Type: HOLD'EM
Limit Type: NO LIMIT
Table Type: TOURNAMENT
Money Type: TOURNAMENT CHIPS
Blinds are now $50/$100
Button is at seat 9
Seat 1: Sokura - $10,863
Seat 2: sebatoma - $7,525
Seat 3: HERO- $7,950
Seat 4: skoby78 - $9,200
Seat 5: bengaar - $15,025
Seat 6: jdz147 - $7,775
Seat 7: pjmen30s - $3,100
Seat 8: menidi21 - $7,775
Seat 9: DrJoost - $5,925
Seat 10: stenchfish - $7,725
Sokura will be dealt in after the button
Moving Button to seat 1
sebatoma posts small blind ($50)
HERO posts big blind ($100)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [ad][ks] to HERO
Sokura bounces his chip.
skoby78 calls $100
bengaar raises to $350
jdz147 folds
pjmen30s folds
menidi21 folds
DrJoost calls $350
stenchfish folds
sebatoma folds
HERO raises to $1,550
skoby78 folds
bengaar calls $1,550
DrJoost folds
Dealing Flop [2h][2d][5d]
HERO bets $2,650
bengaar calls $2,650
Dealing Turn [3s]
HERO bets $3,750 (all-in)


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stealyourblinds
Joined: 20.01.2010

I am kinda newb here, but why dont you use the Pokerstrategy Elephant hand export function to post the hand in converted format?


Jehudas
Joined: 15.05.2008

don't know bout elephant - but easiest is to take hand in raw format and paste in on there Hand Converter... You can select various output formats... Have fun! ;)

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as for the hand:
I'd suspect bengaar to hold any pocket pair - at least thats what I'd think according to his betting and calling. Quite brutal barrelling - I think I wouldn't have bet that big on flop...


dylboi011
Joined: 20.04.2010

i think if i 3bet pre less i would then b able to c/bet less then c/f if i miss turn as played i think after cbetting flop the only option i have is to ship any turn X(


rhinoneil
Joined: 16.04.2008

this is quite a tricky spot preflop.
If you 3bet, i think your bet size is about right but as you say, any cbet would commit you to the pot anyway so may have been better to simply shove it pre.
Two other alternatives would be 3bet, check flop OR call pre, neither of which I like.
All things considered I think just ship it preflop


TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

3bet or shove i dont like calling
1350 -1850 3 betting size
Cbet smaler 1/2 pot max or check and see what happens, ull check with AA- KK on that flop fair amount of time dont u?

on turn is ugly cos u bet very big on flop, if cant see villain folding better hand then AK if u shove cos u have less then 1/2 pot size stack left, if u bet smaler on flop u'll have bigger stack on turn


Hlynkinn
Joined: 14.06.2008

preflop 3bet might be slightly smaller although it looks okay..

Flop cbet should only be 1/2 of pot..

as played turn is a shove imo... we have committed ourselves and we have some FE and Suckout value.


pils3
Joined: 10.01.2007

The 3bet preflop looks perfectely fine to me, although you could make it a little smaller, 1200-1300 should be sufficient.

Since you are out of position i guess you need to make the cbet but im not 100% sure. The problem is that he will never fold any pocket on this flop, so you wont bluff away any better hand and I dont see a valuebet against any worse hand here since AQ and worse will probably just fold. So checking the flop would be an option to represent any upcoming overcard on turn/river. But still the check induces steals from random hands and valuebets from pockets.
Anyway your cbet is to large, no need to put 40% of your stack in the middle, 1/2 pot or little more is fine.

Originally posted by Hlynkinn
as played turn is a shove imo... we have committed ourselves and we have some FE and Suckout value.

After he calls I find the push on the turn terrible. He wont fold ever after calling your cbet because he should know that you comittet on the flop.
Because of this you will not have the best hand ever, so i see no point in pushing there. He might check behind if you check to him, so why not give him the opportunity to give away a free card?