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[Closed] $26 AKo tptk final table facing action

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LgWz
Joined: 26.05.2007

No Limit Holdem Tournament
FullTiltPoker
4 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$19,500 Guarantee

Stacks:
Hero (CO) (749k)
BTN (546k)
SB (708k)
BB (945k)

Blinds: 12k/24k Ante 3

Pre-Flop: (36k, 4 players) Hero is CO K♣ A♠
Hero raises to 52k, 1 fold, SB calls 40k, 1 fold

Flop: 3♥ Q♠ A♣ (128k, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets 82k, SB calls 82k

Turn: 10:diamond: (292k, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets 144k, SB goes all-in 571k, Hero ???

He was 25/17 after 135 hands. I've been very aggressive preflop on the semifinal table, then tightened up a bit during the start of the FT and now I'm aggressive again. I think he usually 3bets his better hands and calls medium-strength hands. Last time he called me oop and we went to showdown he showed T9o.

Do I fold to his turn raise? Should I have checked it in the first place?


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TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

yea, check for pot control on turn that's very ugly turn card for u and he is not calling with worse imo


c/rai is very ugly, but i think you can´t really b/f once you bet turn
Just he can c/rai there for value for example AJ or semibluff somehow KQ
SInce likely Ax hand won´t call you down with 3 streets I think check back turn would likely be the best option


trying to put him on range of hands which are beating you

cant see him calling flop with KJ
As or Ts would expect him to reraise preflop but he would play flop/turn that way

AQ or AT , maybe but he cant put you on AK as he would expect you to bet A high flop regardless so think his range is a lot wider than those hands so would double him up


TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

Originally posted by curnow
trying to put him on range of hands which are beating you (33,AA,QQ,TT AT,AQ,KJ,QT,A3)

cant see him calling flop with KJ
(why not? if u say he should be expecting for hero to Cbet Ahi flop 100% of time => then he should float there with KJ+call with QT, TT ,AT etc 100% of time ->cos he call oop his call looks stronger

As or Ts would expect him to reraise preflop but he would play flop/turn that way

AQ or AT , maybe but he cant put you on AK as he would expect you to bet A high flop regardless so think his range is a lot wider than those hands so would double him up
imo ur reasoning is very bad,
#1
if u r expecting him to reraise AA,TT u should expect also that he will reraise AT/AQ/QQ, imo there is no bad to slow play any of those hands.. he might be setting a trap for bb to squeeze etc
#2
-on flop his range is getting narrowed prety much to this KJ,QT+, Ax, QQ,AA,33,44,55,tt,jj
-as played i can't see him bluff very often there so his wider range imo is A3,AT+, KJ,33,TT,QQ,AA, AQ,QT so u cant beat anything there except AJ.... SO IMO IS VERY BAD TO CALL THERE, and u r not 2x him if u call and he has u beat and u dont outdraw on river u r out
#3
that T on turn is ugly card cos hits a lot of his flop calling range, thats why best should be check behind for pot control, (clasic w/a w/b spot) cos if hero is behind, and SB has nuts, he has at least 3 outs to tie and calling bet on river will leave him alive with ~20bb stack


if you know he is kind of player that defends his blinds then you know his range is lot wider

the other thing , it's final table action 4 handed , full ring you would his turn bet to be a bluff or nutz but here his range is a lot wider including Ax

as played on turn , if you check behind you will face ugly position on river unless you hit straight , if you check your showing weakness so would the bb float you anyway , betting turn you can at least fold with 20bb left but still think I am calling


TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

first
if u check behind u r checking for pot control (that means that u wont get ugly river decision => if he shoves that would be 2xpot bet u fold if he bets reasonable amount max pot size u'll call if u r beat u have like 20 BB stack left) there is no value in betting imo
second
what hands he will call preflop from SB, check/call on AQ3 flop, check/raise AI on T turn -> that AK had them BEAT??
and NO HE IS NEVER SHOVING WORSE Ax THEN AK ON TURN, he is not random he made to FT doesn't he?

and last
TELL ME WHY WE SHOULD BET ON TURN??
VALUE??
PROTECTION??
BLUFF??
u r line have no sense why the hell we should bet/ fold AK in that spot on turn when we r almost never drawing dead and u say that villain will shove Ax (if villain has nuts we can at least split) if we r betting on turn it must be with intention to call a shove otherwise betting has no sense => no worse will call?


larseda
Joined: 06.08.2006

if u bet turn ... then the call have to be snap
u cant never ever bet/fold this turn ... but if u are scared of better hands, then cb the turn

I prefer to cb the turn for bluff induce and potcontrol
we have a medium hand with sd value ... and no nutz