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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007
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Would be nice to also know main activities that computer needs to handle and obviously budget.


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dydukas
Joined: 01.05.2009
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Guys could you also check my blog? I need some computer buying advice too. :) Link in the signature. Thanks


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akrammon
Joined: 17.05.2009
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Well, budget is... eh. Anyway, I'll link what was suggested in a sec, main activities has to be poker mostly, with a few side things such as movies and maybe in the future I'll want to run 2 screens simultanously. edit: pc games occasinally for recreation but def not a main goal to be a "gamer pc" edit*2: and most importantly it has to be functional for 5 years(at least)!

Recommended one is:

* Intel "WoodWorth" Classic Series Micro ATX motherboard (DH61WW)
(dunno if WoodWorth is any sort of official name or just the store made it up, lol)

* Intel Core i5-2400 3.1GHz processor (4Core, 6MB L3 cache, 1333MHz FSB, LGA1155, EM64T, 32nm, max. TDP 95W)

* 4GB PC3-10600 DDR3 RAM kit (Kingston, KVR1333D3N9K2/4G, 64bit, CL9)

* Chieftec Smart DTG350 350W PFC battery (battery is not the correct word but I'm not very good with these technical terms. so the thing for the power supply )

next one: I have no idea what it is so answering that would be nice costs €10 but it'd still be nice to know
* 8GB PC3-10600 DDR3 RAM kit (Kingston, KVR1333D3N9K2/8G, 64bit, CL9)

and vga cards are to be chosen from the following list of 4 cards:
* MSI Radeon R6770-MD1GD5 PCI express VGA card with 1GB GDDR5 RAM
* MSI Radeon R6790-PM2DIGD5/OC PCI express VGA card with 1GB GDDR5 RAM
* MSI Radeon R6850 -PM2D1GD/OC PCI express VGA card with 1GB GDDR5 RAM
* MSI R6870-2PM2D1GD5/OC PCI express VGA card with 1GB GDDR5 RAM

obviously prices increasing from top downwards. Last one is def too much for me. Obviously top is worst and it gets better downwards so I just want a general opinion on the top one for example.

as for the budget, this setup already "exceeds" the budget (family got together for a joint op for my birthday/christmas and everyone gave me money for a new pc, anything above that limit is to be paid by me) so I just basically wanna test if this setup is any good, I have literally no idea how good this CPU is, nor the VGA, and absolutely ZERO idea about the motherboard. I see that the RAM is good

Thanks a lot for the help.

@dydukas I saw it in your blog but as you can see I'm no expert. I'd def avoid ASUS from what I've heard tho. (maybe mixing it up with acer?... crap... That's why I didn't want to give any advice to you )

thanks again!


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MilanBurdych
Joined: 20.05.2008
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OK, I ll start with:

Processor: It is good value but I think u get better one, 6-core actually for the same price - AMD Phenom II X6 1090T. Intel also has integrated graphic chip u definitely dont need.

Motherboard: Doesnt matter that much, just check if it fits the processor and memmory so u can use the max power.

Memmory: I would go for 2*4GB, Kingston was always good, nice value, I would buy the best I can depending on money and what motherboard lets me.

Power source: 350W is ridiculously low. I would go for 500+ wats, Seasonic is a good brand, avoid Eurocase.

Graphic card: I would also go for ATI, depends on your budget. MSI or Sapphire or Asus or Gigabyte - just check what cooling it has if it is not too nosiy...

And - 5 years at least - man 5 years is nuts these days


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SvenBe
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I can just say: 2 screens - no way around it nowadays!
350W - also agree that its way to low.

akrammon, can you please contact me on skype: sven.bertelmann.ps got some nice news for you :-)


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akrammon
Joined: 17.05.2009
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Originally posted by MilanBurdych
OK, I ll start with:

Processor: It is good value but I think u get better one, 6-core actually for the same price - AMD Phenom II X6 1090T. Intel also has integrated graphic chip u definitely dont need.

Motherboard: Doesnt matter that much, just check if it fits the processor and memmory so u can use the max power.

Memmory: I would go for 2*4GB, Kingston was always good, nice value, I would buy the best I can depending on money and what motherboard lets me.

Power source: 350W is ridiculously low. I would go for 500+ wats, Seasonic is a good brand, avoid Eurocase.

Graphic card: I would also go for ATI, depends on your budget. MSI or Sapphire or Asus or Gigabyte - just check what cooling it has if it is not too nosiy...

And - 5 years at least - man 5 years is nuts these days

Yea, I definitely will mention the power source, I had problems with the last one as well. It burned out under the heat

as for the cpu, the shop gives some extra long warranty for intel so I think I'm sticking to it. Probably will be good enough I hope. Also as far as I'm concerned (correct me if I'm wrong) Intel is better for non-gaming purposes in general? I don't have any experience with AMD tho.

I'm not exactly sure I'm getting this, in what I wrote there is 1*4gb and 1*8gb RAM or wtf? Or maybe there is 1*4gb and he listed the other one as an alternative?... But it is best performance if you buy more RAMs as far I'm concerned, so 2*4 > 1*8, right?

As for the VGA, noise doesn't matter, I'm not sleeping when I'm using the pc ;) and noone else should! haha. Anyway, is MSI some low-class ATI or what? I'm really uneducated here.

And once again thanks a lot sir!!

Oh and btw my old pc lasted around 5 years, well, barely running HM and a poker client right now :D but it is driven by a Celeron, for Christ's sake I'm surprised it's working at all.


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Originally posted by SvenBe
I can just say: 2 screens - no way around it nowadays!
350W - also agree that its way to low.

akrammon, can you please contact me on skype: sven.bertelmann.ps got some nice news for you :)

Thanks for the ideas! Appreciate it!

BTW these VGAs all support 2 screens right? No need for anything special?

Also, you all agree that 500W should be good?

Also, I'm eager to hear the news :f_confused: :)

edit: added on skype


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MilanBurdych
Joined: 20.05.2008
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It is common - Intel is Intel, longer warranty, not for gamers...;) I think these are just some talks that spread...If I could get better value, better performance for the same money, I wouldnt care what brand it is, it both should be perfect. And again, why to buy intel with graphic chip integrated? But both wont be mistake...

2*4GB better thn 1*8GB.

Msi is prob cheapiest but it differs in cents :) It is all the same almost it differs only when some brand adds something or uses the better core but it thn costs more money. It doesnt matter what brand I think.

500W minimum, dont be cheap there, u knwo it yourself if u burned the last one :)) U can burn motherboard, cpu and so on with it next time ...

The first graphic card doesnt have dual DVI so better go for the next one at least. U would connect two monitors by DVI/HDMI and so on somehow but it ll better work and u ll have more software options I think if u can use dual DVI.


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Originally posted by MilanBurdych
The first graphic card doesnt have dual DVI so better go for the next one at least. U would connect two monitors by DVI/HDMI and so on somehow but it ll better work and u ll have more software options I think if u can use dual DVI.

just to get this straight.. it will work anyway but it will be easier if I choose nr. 2 at least?


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MilanBurdych
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OK I think I said it wrong, was thinking in Czech, writting in English and playin some poker lol.
All the graphic cards has Dual-DVI connectors. It is standard these days, earlier there were single_DVIs that support less resolution. So all cards are ok with that. All cards also has HDMI connector. The first one has only one dual-DVI connector, others has two. U can plug in one LCD on DVI, one on HDMI or two in DVI, u can use many adapters and so on. Another connector that have I think the three better cards is display port - imagine it like that, there were D-SUB thn DVI thn HDMI thn display port - every new connector handles better resolution, quality, also sound and so on...I think if u arent super into this thing u ll be ok with any connectors.
And one more thing - if your card has only one connector, u can buy "splitter" and still conect two lcds :)


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Originally posted by MilanBurdych
OK I think I said it wrong, was thinking in Czech, writting in English and playin some poker lol.
All the graphic cards has Dual-DVI connectors. It is standard these days, earlier there were single_DVIs that support less resolution. So all cards are ok with that. All cards also has HDMI connector. The first one has only one dual-DVI connector, others has two. U can plug in one LCD on DVI, one on HDMI or two in DVI, u can use many adapters and so on. Another connector that have I think the three better cards is display port - imagine it like that, there were D-SUB thn DVI thn HDMI thn display port - every new connector handles better resolution, quality, also sound and so on...I think if u arent super into this thing u ll be ok with any connectors.
And one more thing - if your card has only one connector, u can buy "splitter" and still conect two lcds :)

Thanks, I get it now, great :)

Would've been funny if this wasn't standard as I'm running a screen and a tv from this pc...

Anyway, thanks a lot for the assistance, if I can help you with anything in the future, just let me know :)

Aaaah crap one last one: What price seems reasonable for you? Approximately?

edit: for this setup with the cheapest vga card for example.


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MilanBurdych
Joined: 20.05.2008
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Absolutely no problem...

I did add to the basket in my favourite shop in Czech Republic this:

Sapphire HD 6790 1GB GDDR5
LG GH22NS70
Kingston HyperX T1 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 2000 (KHX2000C9AD3T1FK3
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 - 1TB
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition
EuroCase ML 5470, BlackSilver
Asus M4N68T-M LE V2 - nForce 630a
Seasonic Energy Knight 550W

Just super quickly and it is for 18,000CZK = 720 Euros for 6core CPU, 6GB of the great great memmory, 1TB harddisc, graphic card that is above average, solid power source and cheap and enough motherboard, DVD-RW and case.


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MilanBurdych
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Not saying - buy this, I did it super quick to know the price of a very good computer.


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akrammon
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Thanks once more then :)

(that price would indeed be too much :P)


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akrammon
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Hey guys!

It looks like that I'm gonna get one of my HH reviewed by Collin Moshman on his coaching on Monday.
HH is FR tho, had to pull an older one, it's from August :)

I'm very happy with this opportunity! Please, all of you come and watch my horrible lines on Monday ;)

Seeya guys!


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Gerovit
Joined: 16.01.2011
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Originally posted by MilanBurdych
Absolutely no problem...

I did add to the basket in my favourite shop in Czech Republic this:

Sapphire HD 6790 1GB GDDR5
LG GH22NS70
Kingston HyperX T1 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 2000 (KHX2000C9AD3T1FK3
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 - 1TB
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition
EuroCase ML 5470, BlackSilver
Asus M4N68T-M LE V2 - nForce 630a
Seasonic Energy Knight 550W

Just super quickly and it is for 18,000CZK = 720 Euros for 6core CPU, 6GB of the great great memmory, 1TB harddisc, graphic card that is above average, solid power source and cheap and enough motherboard, DVD-RW and case.

Exactly the same configuration in Serbia costs 550 eur (at least one thing that's better here :) )

And yeah we are going to flame you so much, can't wait for monday _evil:


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ghaleon
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Originally posted by ghaleon
But I am planning to target diamond this month (might be too much for me) so not a big deal.

Woot woot!!! Both diamonds in betfred and here in pokerstrategy achieved! :f_love:


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Originally posted by ghaleon

Originally posted by ghaleon
But I am planning to target diamond this month (might be too much for me) so not a big deal.

Woot woot!!! Both diamonds in betfred and here in pokerstrategy achieved! :f_love:

cheers sir :)

so after fdb runs out, are you staying with the 39% rb?


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akrammon
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Originally posted by Gerovit
And yeah we are going to flame you so much, can't wait for monday _evil:

Yea, I know, already prepping my ego to switch off for the coaching ;)


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ghaleon
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Originally posted by akrammon

Originally posted by ghaleon

Originally posted by ghaleon
But I am planning to target diamond this month (might be too much for me) so not a big deal.

Woot woot!!! Both diamonds in betfred and here in pokerstrategy achieved! :f_love:

cheers sir :)

so after fdb runs out, are you staying with the 39% rb?

Actually I don't know. I think rakeback is practically still better in some other site with fdb? I have not really done any calculations though. Also I might be interested to go back into pokerstars. Rakeback with supernova will be nice in there as well plus much more action in 50$+ games. Have to give more thought on this next month.

Btw does Collin have those coachings on regular basis or is this some special one?


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