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konkey
Joined: 29.12.2009
PokerStrategist

How do you handle something like this?
FT Super Turbos...


BOBOsvk Topic starter
BOBOsvk
Joined: 14.02.2010
PokerStrategist

i personally cant deal with this

my only advice is VOLUME,VOLUME,VOLUME

i've been running hot recently - about 120bis over ev this month lol

today: 326 games roi 9.4 , EV roi ~2 :f_confused:

edit: i will stick to 350 games, it's something about 6hr day and i can do that without going to bad at 5am :f_biggrin:


BOBOsvk Topic starter
BOBOsvk
Joined: 14.02.2010
PokerStrategist

i dropped ~60 bis and it seems like, when i have to push they have always better hands

ex. BvB bubble

A7 vs A8
if A8 then they have A9
if A10 then it's AJ
if 88 then 99 and if 99 then 10 10 :f_cry:

i hope volume will fix this


you should take notes on people that do not understand bubble play and monkey call. That way you can tighten up against them.
If there is a shorter stack than you and you are pushing into a bigger stack than you then even A6 becomes a fold.

But notes are key to bubble play :)


Maybe bad luck, maybe bad ranges, maybe both.

This is one of the reasons why I more likely push 86s then A3o. Of course Your image is key here - if You are perceived as tight 98s >> A8o, on other hand if You played very loosely then A8o >> 98s because lot of villians will call with A4 etc. Ofc there are tons of other factors as well.


nibbana
Joined: 05.12.2009
Oldschool Grinder

Originally posted by YourDoom
Maybe bad luck, maybe bad ranges, maybe both.

This is one of the reasons why I more likely push 86s then A3o. Of course Your image is key here - if You are perceived as tight 98s >> A8o, on other hand if You played very loosely then A8o >> 98s because lot of villians will call with A4 etc. Ofc there are tons of other factors as well.

It's all about your opponents, I get your point about image but really at $5 I fail to see many players adapting or at least not well. In Super Turbo BvB you're often facing looser calling ranges so shoving your Ax hands is going to be more profitable than shoving your 86s type hands.


nibbana: I play SupTurbos (4-tabling) mostly too and use this.

Of course detailed notes are by far best, generally this works best versus multitablers, because they tend to play more scripted and have less time to adapt. Vs fishes I prefer limp/miniraise speculative hands AND monsters.

When You push to 2,5 BB stack then A2o >> JTs ofc...


BOBOsvk Topic starter
BOBOsvk
Joined: 14.02.2010
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@ lennonac:

2 monkey hands

http://www.handconverter.com/hands/971611 (he had Q8o)

http://www.handconverter.com/hands/971618 (k6o here)

omg REG just called my 10bb push in hu with 22

@ YourDoom:

But those multitablers that you play on X tables or you have 2k hands history with them are not that stupid. Maybe at 1$ they are but at 5$ they are enough stupid to call you with Q8s bvb on the bubble for 10bbs because they know you are shoving light.

Ask nibbana about one reg calling 10bb push with K2o because he knows i am pushing light there. Ofc i had much better hand than he expected :).

I like the i know that he knows here, so i am trying to exploit :f_biggrin:

nice swong today, i was up 21 bis , lost 30, up 18 :f_cool:


BOBOsvk Topic starter
BOBOsvk
Joined: 14.02.2010
PokerStrategist

-25 bis :evil:


nibbana
Joined: 05.12.2009
Oldschool Grinder

Originally posted by YourDoom
nibbana: I play SupTurbos (4-tabling) mostly too and use this.

Of course detailed notes are by far best, generally this works best versus multitablers, because they tend to play more scripted and have less time to adapt. Vs fishes I prefer limp/miniraise speculative hands AND monsters.

Yea, the key is to be adaptive yourself and not try to make a one size fits all strategy. But BOBOsvk is right about the good multitabling regs being good enough to adapt to your stats which is enough. They may not all keep detailed notes but if there's action on a table BvB and all they have to go off is a 95% SB Steal then they're going to take a punt more often with marginal hands.

Originally posted by YourDoom
When You push to 2,5 BB stack then A2o >> JTs ofc...

Nope not quite ;) If you shove into 2.5BB stack then you expect to be called way way wide because you're offering 2.33/1 ((2.5+1)/1.5)

Call% - Calling Range
69.5% - 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T2s+, 95s+, 85s+, 76s, A2o+, K2o+, Q2o+, J2o+, T5o+, 96o+, 87o

A2o Equity - 52.038%
JTs Equity - 52.147%

So if you get called 69.5% or wider JTs is better


BOBOsvk Topic starter
BOBOsvk
Joined: 14.02.2010
PokerStrategist

468 games today
EV line is at 20 bis
GREEN line is at -15 bis

downswing finally hit after being super hot
2nd losing day in a row today ...

my run on 5$ so far:

6469 games
EV RED: 3.6% roi
GREEN: 3.5% roi

imo sad, given the fact i ran 90 bis over EV


Why don't u make a new acc linked with ps?


BOBOsvk Topic starter
BOBOsvk
Joined: 14.02.2010
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i have linked acc but not on ftp :) or what do you mean?

btw. at one point i was down 100bis, slowly recovering now


Originally posted by BOBOsvk
i have linked acc but not on ftp :) or what do you mean?

btw. at one point i was down 100bis, slowly recovering now

i mean u r still basic, u cant watch any videos or read articles


BOBOsvk Topic starter
BOBOsvk
Joined: 14.02.2010
PokerStrategist

the fact that i cant watch videos or read articles doesnt bother me at all :P

i am active here to find new friends, keep my friends updated and discuss whatever with them


jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009
Oldschool Grinder

You don't convince me Basic Boris! BTW if you want me to be your graph posting gimp again, you just have to ask.


BOBOsvk Topic starter
BOBOsvk
Joined: 14.02.2010
PokerStrategist

thank you sir

anyway something tells me i had a bronze account before but cant remember anything more :f_biggrin:

i just need to play few more K games and then put some pics in it so the graph is funny (5k games needed)


BOBOsvk Topic starter
BOBOsvk
Joined: 14.02.2010
PokerStrategist

ololol started the day losing again and as every month i have this feelings like

i cant beat the game anymore ?
isnt it better to just cash out and enjoy money?

i know i would return after some time and start grinding again from 1$ or 2$ level. Do i realy want this ? ?(

i am so weak and stupid :rolleyes: ...


Originally posted by BOBOsvk
ololol started the day losing again and as every month i have this feelings like

i cant beat the game anymore ?
isnt it better to just cash out and enjoy money?

i know i would return after some time and start grinding again from 1$ or 2$ level. Do i realy want this ? ?(

i am so weak and stupid :rolleyes: ...

if u beated it once, i think it's not a big deal to try again and get some self assurance.


BOBOsvk Topic starter
BOBOsvk
Joined: 14.02.2010
PokerStrategist

problem is that i tried again and again multiple times and i am not interested in winning cents for few hours work


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