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kevvu
Joined: 11.05.2008
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Played some hands NL50 again and ended a bit down. Overall was pretty decent day. Everything is coming so hard, but at least i am not down today :).
Not going to play today more, cause my GF comes here. So i woke up earlier and played longer sessions.


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Joined: 11.05.2008
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So some things for nl25 players. I would like to move up soon. Just need to get some luck, not running into top range.
-ppl donk 1bb with weak pair or draw. They dont fold against raise. They even dont multiple streets.
-ppl reraise 4x or sth else big with rly strong hands _evil:
-if ppls beting dont make sense, they have strong hand.
-ch calling is a lot of times better than beting, cause ppl bet rly loosely.

I am going to ass sth else if it comes to my mind


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StaticMoth
Joined: 22.05.2009
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Originally posted by kevvu
-ppl donk 1bb with weak pair or draw. They dont fold against raise. They even dont multiple streets.
-ppl reraise 4x or sth else big with rly strong hands _evil:
-if ppls beting dont make sense, they have strong hand.
-ch calling is a lot of times better than beting, cause ppl bet rly loosely.

#1 = yeah, they donk call with weak made hands and never let go :f_biggrin:
#2 = standard players yeah but vs fish you never know ... today had fish 4x raise/call me with 2nd pair and obv turned two pair like a pro with 10bb behind and stacked my aces :f_biggrin:
#3 = true, when I find myself thinking "wtf, this doesn't make sense at all" click call, usually you see monsters you never expected :f_biggrin:


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opal99
Joined: 05.02.2008
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Originally posted by StaticMoth

Originally posted by kevvu
-if ppls beting dont make sense, they have strong hand.

#3 = true, when I find myself thinking "wtf, this doesn't make sense at all" click call, usually you see monsters you never expected :f_biggrin:

It applies on every limit...


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fusionpk
Joined: 21.01.2010
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#3 I wish I read that before I just hero called in tourny on bubble >.< he made no sense so I call he busts me dang.


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Joined: 11.05.2008
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3- maybe they use it on all limits. Last week had rly long over 36h poker play and then approx 10 h learning. Tomorrow i will be offline. Hope to see more nl25 beating tips ;).


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StaticMoth
Joined: 22.05.2009
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Originally posted by kevvu
Hope to see more nl25 beating tips ;).

When they cbet ~1/2 pot on a wet board - you can c/r 100% of the time and take it down 95% of the time :f_biggrin:


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Originally posted by StaticMoth
When they cbet ~1/2 pot on a wet board - you can c/r 100% of the time and take it down 95% of the time :f_biggrin:

disagree. Regs often cbet 1/2 bank on wet board like an invitation to raise with strong made hand/strong draw


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StaticMoth
Joined: 22.05.2009
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Originally posted by NoEmoti0n

Originally posted by StaticMoth
When they cbet ~1/2 pot on a wet board - you can c/r 100% of the time and take it down 95% of the time :f_biggrin:

disagree. Regs often cbet 1/2 bank on wet board like an invitation to raise with strong made hand/strong draw

Should've specified that I'm talking about NL25 SH Rush strictly =)


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Originally posted by StaticMoth

Originally posted by NoEmoti0n
disagree. Regs often cbet 1/2 bank on wet board like an invitation to raise with strong made hand/strong draw

Should've specified that I'm talking about NL25 SH Rush strictly =)

And I meant NL25 @ Stars


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Originally posted by StaticMoth

Originally posted by NoEmoti0n

Originally posted by StaticMoth
When they cbet ~1/2 pot on a wet board - you can c/r 100% of the time and take it down 95% of the time :f_biggrin:

disagree. Regs often cbet 1/2 bank on wet board like an invitation to raise with strong made hand/strong draw

Should've specified that I'm talking about NL25 SH Rush strictly =)

I think rush is a bit different game ;).


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StaticMoth
Joined: 22.05.2009
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Originally posted by kevvu

I think rush is a bit different game ;).

True that, I just totally forgot the fact that I play rush :f_biggrin:


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Originally posted by StaticMoth

Originally posted by kevvu

I think rush is a bit different game ;).

True that, I just totally forgot the fact that I play rush :f_biggrin:

lol _D


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Lately i have started to feel that i am doing empty thing. I think i am going to get one poker book and read that. Anybody want to have nl25 hand analysis sessions.


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This month has been rly shitty again like last half year. It hard to play, when u play your standard game and u constantly lose. Cause of that i have started to doubt about my decisions and everything goes down.

We had some 4b and 5b bluffing action running. 30/16/2.2/wts24. Fold to 4b 0% out of 6. Any ideas? PRF shoud be k but postflop iam not sure at all.
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
SB ($47.43)
BB ($43.90)
UTG ($9.32)
Hero ($74.05)
BTN ($74.43)

Dealt to Hero Q♥ T♥

fold, Hero raises to $0.70, BTN raises to $2.50, fold, fold, Hero raises to $8, BTN raises to $16.50, Hero calls $8.50

FLOP ($33.40) Q♠ K♦ Q♦

Hero checks, BTN checks

TURN ($33.40) Q♠ K♦ Q♦ J♥

Hero checks, BTN bets $14, Hero calls $14

RIVER ($61.40) Q♠ K♦ Q♦ J♥ T♦

Hero checks, BTN bets $43.93 (AI)]

Any ideas?


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StaticMoth
Joined: 22.05.2009
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3bet stats? Sample size?
And why do you 4bet if he has 0% fold vs 4bet? :f_biggrin:
Bloating the pot when you know that he's either gonna 5bet or call and be in position deeep.

I'm not really an expert of playing in 5bet pots but I'm pretty sure that calling a 5bet OOP with QTs is pretty suicidal.

My guess would be that you have a really small sample and overestimate his bluffing frequencies ... soo most likely he has KK here.

All sorts of Qx combos are highly unlikely ... aaall you beat is JJ imo.


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Tim64
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Yeah, this looks spewy to me. You are 4b for bluff, not value. Once you get 5b, I'm done with the hand. You cant shove, and calling QTs oop for 40bb more is pretty terrible, imo. If you are desperate to play a weak hand oop deepstacked (kinda suicidal) then just call the 3b and keep the pot managable.

If you ask yourself (in a vacuum) how many bb QTs is worth on average, you wont get the answer 300.

Well, you cant fold the flop as played, but why dont you bet turn with trips? If its because you fear he has KK, then that shows why calling a 5b oop with such a marginal hand is bad - because you are always at the top of his range.

As played, I ch/f the river and hate myself for getting myself in such a tough spot.

GL, and remember: keep it simple. Dont put in all that effort to build up 3 stacks and then just spazz it off ;)


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I think prf its rly hard to fold against his minreraise. I think i have too good odds to call. He could even make it with worser than my hand. On turn i am not sure am i able to bet fold, cause he is not reasonable player. But maybe i should. I dont know lately what i am doing. If i get sucked out whole day then i am lost in many spots. (thats my tilt) I dont know how to play in different spots. Today i took almost free day cause of that. I try do make some hand analysis + rethink about my game. If u constantly are against top range on nl25 and u are BE then u start to think that u are rly bad.


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gape0000
Joined: 28.08.2007
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He could even make it with worser than my hand.

I dont think he ever does that since it makes no sense to give u good odds with bad hand so i think he has a monster in that spot alot -not that its a good play with monster but u get the point :)


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Not rly, i lost cause of u. Dont ask why, it just was so . And other hands also . Now i run even worser, when we had that session. Have u played ?

z: on the river i still beat AA, JJ, TT Aq... and so on...


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