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SeaJaws
Joined: 04.06.2007
Elite Grinder

Are you sure this is the end of it? Didn't know it was possible to cash out to another persons bank or whatever he used. And if it is pokerstars should be able to recover his identity.


ZhiCheng
Joined: 04.10.2008
Elite Grinder

Man, this is real shit..
I always thought poker accounts are supersafe.

I rly dont understand how they could proccess the withdrawal to some other person then u. I mean, he had to fill in his details.

+ I dont get why dont they uncover his identity once they learned it has been fraud.

Its real underbelt hit.
Wish you ll find enough strenght in urself to recover from it.


Joenaes Topic starter
Joenaes
Joined: 18.07.2008
BlackMember

Originally posted by SeaJaws
Are you sure this is the end of it? Didn't know it was possible to cash out to another persons bank or whatever he used. And if it is pokerstars should be able to recover his identity.

I already mailed Pokerstars concerning this matter but they cant seem to give any info about the suspects webmoney account/IP adress and such. I mailed Webmoney (the site to where the transaction is made) today, maybe if they can do something about it.

Anyways I'm not to pleased of the support Pokerstars gave me on this subject. I used to be very pleased with their support but in this case they really replied late everytime and didnt provide me with that much new info, but whatever. Its like a closed case for them I guess.

Gonna have a smallish break from poker now to work on my masterthesis. I also wait till the RSA tokens arrive before I'm gonna play on a poker client.


Wow, this really makes me improve my security for my poker account.


this is so terrible!!! i hope whoever he is gets the superbadkarma he deserves x 100.
i would be crushed if this happend to me.
tbh, given the circumstances, i think ur handling it quite well jonas. mindset like a pro. i bow to ur coolness.


Joenaes Topic starter
Joenaes
Joined: 18.07.2008
BlackMember

I already failed not playing :(. Played 6k hands yesterday :rolleyes: and got a decent % back already.


Phgrinder
Joined: 16.02.2009
Oldschool Grinder

that's why i always cashout my bankroll and just leave around 1k$ but still play on the same limits.

if i bust i reload again. its safer that way than have your entire bankroll at risk with hacks and what nots.

sorry to hear about what happend to you dude.


Joenaes Topic starter
Joenaes
Joined: 18.07.2008
BlackMember

I do the same ;).

But I 20-24 table so you can make the calculation to NL200/400.

Luckily I cash out frequently and I saw it almost instant. If it would have happened the week before (when I was on holiday), I would have lost way more.


Joenaes Topic starter
Joenaes
Joined: 18.07.2008
BlackMember

Oh and FAIL of they day:

One month ago I decided that I wanted to play some more live tournaments and I saw the Czech-Slovak Tour starting the end of June.

I didnt saw any qualifiers for this event so I mailed support:

CSPT Praag 25-28 juni 2009

D'oh!!

Edit: already bought plane tickets , but I got some good friends over there so honestly I dont mind.


vonki
Joined: 18.03.2008
Oldschool Grinder

How could you have lost more if he cashed out the maximum ?

Anyway it sucks to hear :( But you'll get it back in no time, im sure.


Joenaes Topic starter
Joenaes
Joined: 18.07.2008
BlackMember

Originally posted by vonki
How could you have lost more if he cashed out the maximum ?

Anyway it sucks to hear :( But you'll get it back in no time, im sure.

Its a maximum for each day


Joenaes Topic starter
Joenaes
Joined: 18.07.2008
BlackMember

So I'm back to the grind.

Last days I've been masstabling SH cause it gives me a bit more vpps than FR and I can manage to play more hands (fr:24tables is still not that much). I tried at first to start with 8-10 tables but I just die of boredom. Not only my mind but my body need to be in constant motion I guess. So I pumped it up till 18 tables leading to few unused seconds during a session.

I'm also a bit more adapted to the SH dynamics right now. In the beginning I was amazed by the light stack offs and the amount of 3barrel bluffs etc. But right now I create a feel for it and things are going better.

Graph:

I'm fairly happy with this, because:
- I just started SH
- Nonsd are positive (nice imo when playing so many tables)
- Winrate is decent as well (given that I ran a bit cold and avg 1.5k hands/h

Ofc not yet a great sample
Stats:

22/18/7

Here some interesting hands:

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG twinpsych ($207.40)
UTG+1 Pairofnothin ($209.40)
CO elfeggg ($403)
BTN Hyi_Vam ($242.20)
SB FastEddie267 ($256.95)
BB Hero ($415.10)

Pre-Flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is BB A♠ 8♥
3 folds, Hyi_Vam raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero calls $2

Flop: 8♠ 4♦ 6♦ ($9, 2 players)
Hero checks, Hyi_Vam bets $8, Hero raises to $23.40, Hyi_Vam calls $15.40

Turn: 9♣ ($55.80, 2 players)
Hero checks, Hyi_Vam bets $42, Hero calls $42

River: 6♠ ($139.80, 2 players)
Hero checks, Hyi_Vam goes all-in $172.80, Hero calls $172.80

Final Pot: $485.40
Hyi_Vam shows two pair, Eights and Sixes
3♣ 8♣
Hero shows two pair, Eights and Sixes - Ace kicker
A♠ 8♥

Hero wins $482.40 (net +$240.20)

Hyi_Vam lost $242.20

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Tantal17 ($383.40)
CO FastEddie267 ($200)
BTN Hero ($255.65)
SB Pairofnothin ($209)
BB twinpsych ($309.50)

Pre-Flop: ($3, 5 players) Hero is BTN A♠ J♣
1 fold, FastEddie267 raises to $6, Hero calls $6, 1 fold, twinpsych calls $4

Flop: K♣ 6♠ J♥ ($19, 3 players)
twinpsych checks, FastEddie267 bets $13, Hero calls $13, twinpsych raises to $50.65, FastEddie267 folds, Hero calls $37.65

Turn: 2♣ ($133.30, 2 players)
twinpsych bets $68, Hero calls $68

River: Q♦ ($269.30, 2 players)
twinpsych goes all-in $184.85, Hero goes all-in $131

Final Pot: $585.15
Hero shows a pair of Jacks
A♠ J♣
twinpsych shows high card King
7♠ 5♠

Hero wins $529.30 (net +$273.65)

twinpsych collects $53.85 (net -$255.65)
FastEddie267 lost $19

There also were two regulars who were chatting vs each other all the time. On one person I had a note, cbets a lot and folds often to c/r.

So because he plays 18 tables as well + was chatting + this note, I called EVERY steal of him in bb (on 5 tables I was bb when he was BU). Also he steals 50%. He always made a potsized cbet and I c/r it every time (which were a lot of times) and he only called/raised twice in an entire 2hour session.

I made some mistakes though:
- Once I folded my bb vs his steal
- Once I forgot to c/r
- Once I c/r when a flopped the nut straight

But apart from that he made me 3 stacks that session and I only stacked him once :P.

Anyways, gn y'all!


mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008
BlackMember

looks like you're doing well

i'm surprised i saw that from twinpsych, I think he is aggro but not that crazy esp in a 3way pot. You must have some sort of sick read or some monkey dynamics

and fasteddie playing NL200 is also surprising when he plays 400-1000 most of the time


Joenaes Topic starter
Joenaes
Joined: 18.07.2008
BlackMember

Well I dont really know him that well but I have pretty aggro image and he is very aggro as well.

On flop he has no value raising range besides 66 and maybe 2 KJs (I dont think he flats them preflop, also JJ/KK/AK not). His mostly likely holding is QT or just some random 98s with backdoors. So he only has 5 valuecombos which is too few to let me fold my 'strong' hand.

Turn and river dont chance too much, only AT got there and I dont think thats in his range toooo often, maybe 15% of the time or so so I called fairly quick on this one.

Edit: after analysing this he could also have T9s a lot here so it actually becomes close but still have the right odds to call. He will bluff here far more than 25% needed


Joenaes Topic starter
Joenaes
Joined: 18.07.2008
BlackMember

Yesterday I made some scenarios of my poker career and I figured out that mindlessly grinding for SNE is probably a bad idea. I mean the benefits in terms of $$$ are huge but since I started so late I would not be able to:

- take many days off
- have a healthy learning:playing balance
- do anything else than 24tabling nlhe cash

Given that I can still earn a good winrate elsewhere, the global picture of SNE becomes actually really unatractive.

So main things I'm gonna do in the future:

- Play more tournaments (I just love playing them)
- Watch much more vids and analyse my/opponents play more
- 4table SH (dont know where yet, probably iPoker)
- Grind nl200 rush for easy monies
- Learn PLO
- Coach more

So no one specific thing cause I just love diversity+independency (I hate being commited on one thing, thats why the SNE thing also afraids me in a way)

So today already played some rush +6 stack sessions :f_biggrin:. Saw 2 good vids, saw Argentina win and now playing some tournaments.

Cheers


what does kaizen mean?
are u going to gind nl200 fr or sh and what do u think about rush poker?


Yoghi
Joined: 10.09.2007
BlackMember
Joenaes Topic starter
Joenaes
Joined: 18.07.2008
BlackMember

Originally posted by fun101rockets
what does kaizen mean?
are u going to gind nl200 fr or sh and what do u think about rush poker?

Sometimes I'm gonna play 4 tables nl200sh and try to improve as much as I can.
Sometimes I will just grind 200fr rush poker for when I'm not in the mood to think a lot but still wanting some easy $$$ .
Sometimes I will play tournaments or PLO.

My thoughts about rush poker:

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG button1512 ($222.95)
UTG+1 EMRounder ($200)
MP1 rikdaring1212 ($476.45)
MP2 STEBAN666 ($198.45)
MP3 stone79 ($579.45)
CO AHANNAHA ($1,726.20)
BTN pphbixx ($78)
SB Hero ($628.25)
BB Ogrefabulous ($245.35)

Pre-Flop: ($3, 9 players) Hero is SB K♦ A♠
2 folds, rikdaring1212 raises to $6, 2 folds, AHANNAHA calls $6, pphbixx calls $6, Hero raises to $30, 1 fold, rikdaring1212 raises to $54, AHANNAHA folds, pphbixx folds, Hero calls $24

Flop: A♥ 6♥ 7♠ ($122, 2 players)
Hero checks, rikdaring1212 bets $54, Hero calls $54

Turn: 9♦ ($230, 2 players)
Hero checks, rikdaring1212 bets $58, Hero calls $58

River: 6♦ ($346, 2 players)
Hero checks, rikdaring1212 goes all-in $310.45, Hero calls $310.45

Final Pot: $966.90
rikdaring1212 shows
Q♥ Q♦
Hero shows two pair, Aces and Sixes
K♦ A♠

Hero wins $963.90 (net +$487.45)

rikdaring1212 lost $476.45
AHANNAHA lost $6
pphbixx lost $6

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Jayrikh
Joined: 13.10.2008
Oldschool Grinder

Do you call that 4bet because of the deepness? And with 100bb, you would 5bet shove i suppose?


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