[Closed] Luckboxing it all the way (SNG)

yeah srry about that i realise now that ...was kinda rude ... so i ll offer to help out you should try 10 man sngs at stars turbo 3.40 buy in as soon as you have the bankroll i ll do sweat sessions with you to show you i don't have bad intentions when i post... about the downswings.....the higher the roi the smaller the downswings....because player aren't playing loose enough to cause downswings... when i played at party wich wasn't tracked i experienced downswings to up to 30 or 40 buy ins .... and break even stretches about 500 sngs so....i know a little about sngs and downswings...lifetime i ve played over 6000 sngs ...so whenever you re ready i can help you with your game if your willing to....also bad roi means bigger downswings as the edge is smaller....

EDIT: And about the first post, i think i misinterpreted what you said in my first blog/challenge so that s why i was flamming you altough it was only a joke.... so....don't get too upset ...i thought you said you re happy that i busted on the tourney

with 10man sng you mean the double or nothing?

i was actualy considering playing those a few days ago to build my bankroll. But Heads up SNG's has been working out pretty nicely atm. And i enjoy doing them.
I've played a few turbo DoN though didn't go horrible but i didn't really play them enough to really get used to them, so i did quite a few mistakes.

But.. I don't mind giving DoN's another shot tomorrow or in the next few days either. I've never done a sweat session before though, I'd like to do one of those. I always want to improve my game more..

Anyway did you mean a sweat session when i reached the 3.40 buy inDoN's ? because that could take a long while or wouldn't you mind doing one at the 1.20 buy ins? Else i dont have much reason to start playing them now, because i think HU might really be what im best at. Although if you would took your time to help me out and with the silver article about it that is on pokerstrategie already I'm sure i could make a nice profit from them and then i'd definetly start playing those.

Sorry for being rude too .. I just have to keep myself motivated and be confident that im playing well because if im not i will start making stupid mistakes.

well that's pretty much it. I'm going to bed now.

10 men sngs not dons i have no experience in dons but i can help you out with turbo sngs and regular ones.... the problem with hu is that you can't put that much of a volume because ...you can't play to many at a time...i play 12 tables at once...so i can put a lot of volume that way i get trough variance very quickly...hu sngs it s more about reading opponent and bet tendencies and try to make him do mistakes i would reccomend to avoid regulars as hu with regular is basically minus ev because of rake...you can't have a that big edge....so i guess hu aren't that great to build a roll...

Yeah that's the down side of playing HU sng. But i don't really mind. Most player are pretty horrible so my edge is quite big to be honest.

And HU sng i can't pick my opponent. But so far, i've never played the same person twice because so many people play them ♦

I don't really have much interest in playing normal ST SNG again. I'm really not that good at them. My edge isn't really that big in them, and the 20% rake really doesn't help with that. I'd probably play breakeven, make profit if im running good and lose when im running bad. So i'd rather stick to HU sng's for now

tilting so bad right now.. so fucking tired of the same bullshit over and over again.

I practice some icm get around 95% score a new record for me. and i noticed how i started i had about 90% and i noticed it kept increasing by 1% as i did it more.

So i just decide to single table the first one. and not jump into a set of 2 right away. i win it..

Then this happens.. i register to 2. i win the first 1. the next one is some fucking horrible bluffing donkey motherfucker. That keeps getting lucky, i will have them all in several times during the heads up and they keep winning them even when im way ahead.

Last one was such a horrible player it makes me sick that i lost. I realy dont mind losing against a good player. but when i keep losing to complete fucking donkeys that pisses me off.

He was so horrible he would fold so often so it would have been easy to steal. but he kept calling with his horrible hands and then outflopping me every single time. or i would bet on the flop he would call and then always hit it on the turn on the river. so fucking annoying.

When i did hit i didn't get any action.

so tired of it. maybe i should just switch back to single tabling. but the thing is, i know it isn't because of the 2 tabling. because i always win the first one, and then play the last one.

i just want to win 2 of them even if i lose the next 2. i don't care. but just winning one and losing one is so annoying because the rake will eat me up.

results:
win: 4
lose: 3

so close to my goal.. and then i'm running horribly.. one of them even made a straightflush with a 5-7 suited. i really want to put in more volume, but if i keep running so bad i can't

going to read some psychology articles... It really isn't good that im getting this mad..

well after taking a little break from poker for the last 2 days. i started to play again today. Concentrated, feeling good, confident. But the cards didn't help me. Mostly losing coinflips or when i was ahead even more. I just decided to keep playing till i lost 3 BI's.. and i did after only playing 4 HU sng.

I enter the tournaments. Hoping that maybe This is the time i cash a decent amount.

PokerStars Tournament #220260309, No Limit Hold'em Freeroll
5000 players
$1000.00 USD added to the prize pool by PokerStars
Total Prize Pool: $1000.00 USD
Tournament started 2009/12/13 19:30:00 CET [2009/12/13 13:30:00 ET]

Dear Hahaownedlol,

You finished the tournament in 136th place. A USD 1.30 award has been credited to your Real Money account.

Congratulations!

Thank you for participating.

well pretty good results. i busted when i had J-6 suited in the bb. and a 3-4-6 flop came, i look at my stack only 6BB left. (30k stack 5k BB). So i decide to push, turns out the donkey called preflop with 4-3 offsuit and i bust.

More interestingly the $1 tournament. Well i just decided too play conservative again really wait for hands.. but they weren't comming. No QQ, KK, AA or even AK. in 130 hands. it went good i doubled up quick in the tournament when i hit a set with 66 on the flop vs KK.

from then the blinds started to eat at my stack.. pushing a few times and then winning a few blinds again a couple of times.

But the blinds keep rising, i keep not getting hands. im looking at K-5 offsuit in the cutoff with 4 BB left. best hand i got in like last 20-30 hands. decided to fold it.

then i get 10-9 in BB. and i only had a 2 BB left. a raise and an all in reraise. love my luck huh? decide to lay it down and see its QQ vs KK. i keep seeing AA vs KK hands and thinking where is my AA or Kk?

Next hand i see 22 in SB, someone raises, i know i can't fold and that its a coinflip at best. but nope poker gods hate me so the other guy has 66 and even gets a 6 on the flop

I bust 130/991 player and top 99 cash if i cashed i would have won back almost all the money i lost with the HU today. Just sucks so bad to get this far and then not cash because your not getting any cards. 4-7 , 5-6 . 10-3, 8-5 etc for 20+ hands while i was shortstacked. heck i would have even shoved with a 7-8 suited but i couldn't even get a hand like that >.<

So grats luckboxes who cashed by now and play 50% of their hands. I actualy played only 14% of the hands i got including BB/SB might sound a bit nitty but i really wasn't getting any hands.

as you might be able to see i've been taking a little break from poker. Exept from the 2 weekly tournaments i always play in.I'm not sure what my bankroll atm is but i just hope its not under $40.

Before i took a break i had some tilting problems. It really isn't good to tilt when you just lose 4-5 coinflips in a row or get a few suckouts in a short period of time. I actualy thought i didn't tilt anymore while i played MT and ST sng. But the big difference was i was multitablig, and that really helps so much against tilting.
It's so much easier to stay calm and tell yourself your playing good when you have 3+ other games going on. even if you bust in some of them quickly, but not tilting when you were ahead or losing multiple coinflips in a row while your single tabling is alot harder.

Exept from that fact i'm going to stop 2 tabling, although i have a very small sample size. I just didn't feel i was playing my A game or even half as concentrated. I didn't dominate the heads up like i used too, part of that reason is that it's very hard to do that when your opponent is running very good. But the other reason is i wasn't concentrated. I didn't really try to abuse their leaks. In fact, i didn't even see many leaks if any at all. So i really have to work on my mindset.
What im going to do is read alot of silver articles in the next few days and reread some bronze ones. To really get back into poker, and then i'm going to try to play atleast 10 HU sng a day. (which is usualy more then 3 hours).

If HU will go really terrible im just going to put my ego aside and go back to the very basics and play DoN, if those don't work out i will probably grind my way up with the $0,25 tournaments and then play SSS. I really hate SSS but i think it would be good to build my bankroll with.

So thats it. I think my silver is running out at the 27th or the end of the month im not sure, but either way im still going to try to get the most out of it. And read/reread all the psychology articles so i learn how to control my tilt even when single tabling.

I hope i can play a few HU today but im not sure.

ohyeah last week results, i cash yet again in the freeroll but quickly busted after, and didn't manage to cash in the tournament sadly. I think i need to work on my MTT play more, i know when to push/fold, how to play tight and all but i find it really hard to be agressive in MTT even when im the bigstack.

it might be because the bigstacks aren't really bigstacks (~20BB) just find it hard to put pressure on short stacks when it means i would lose about 25% of my stack if they pushed my blind steal. Then there's usualy no way i can fold the hand and as always also lose it. Besides that i think i really have to look better for good spots to steal since i basicaly don't steal at all because if it goes wrong i lose a big part of my stack.

Back to Basics

Just over 3 months have passed since my real money poker journey. Name a NL hold'em game and i have tried it. Many ups and downs, a total of 401 SNG's but very little profit. Although 401 SnG's may not seem as much to most of you. It does include alot of 45man Sng's which take 2 hours each, 4 tabling st SnG's taking around a hour each and around 70 HU SNG's which took between 20-40 mins each. So if you consider those facts, i have probably spent well over a hundred hours playing. and i barely played in december.

I quickly gave up on most, saying i had so much bad luck. Constant whining about them. And it is partly true if you see how i ran hugely below EV in just 4k NL2 SH hands. But those were pretty much the only graphs i had, it's hard to put something in perspective without graphs. It's hard to tell how you really did. That's why i looked up my sharkscope graphs. And i saw a few interesting things but more on that later.

Although i was succesful in HU SnG's i did decide to give up on them for now. I realised i do not have the right mind set for them yet. 4tabling SnG's and not tilting is something i can do with little trouble even with many bad beats. But single tabling HU sng's and losing against complete donkey's.. well that's alot harder to not tilt from. I read part of an article about it, and i am probably taking it to personal. Seeing headsup games as the best player should win, a true test of your skills. My ego being way to big

Back to the sharkscope graphs. Here they are:

(in the third part should also be $1 MT sng, forgot to add that)

i realised a few interesting things that i had forgotten.

1 I played breakeven for 75 $1 ST SNG

2 Then i somehow lost 35 Buy-ins in 40 SNG (<- worst downswing ever, stop laughing with ur 10BI downswing in 200 SNG)

3 I Crush the $0,25 like you've never seen before with 125% ROI lol

4 $1 SNG's do not like me as you can see im running -20% ROI and i highly doubt im that bad.

5 I'm running quite decently at $2 HU sng with 5% ROI. it's not that high but it also shows im not biggest luckbox ever in them as the graph seems to look like.

Today is 2010, a new year. New chances and hopefully huge upswings I'm going to put my ego aside and go back to the basics. Something has been going wrong, and im going to stricly follow the strategie articles. (i got all silver articles on my ipod )

The plan:
Practice 100 hands in ICM every day.
read atleast 1 article and try to put it in practice every day.
Play DoN's with the help of the silver article.
If DoN's don't work out i will go back to the very basics and play SSS.
that way i won't tilt as i have solid strategies, there are very few tricky situations or things that would make me tilt unlike Heads up SNG.

last but not least, Happy New Year!! ♦

Change of Plans

(no surprise here for the very few readers )

I've been wanting to give ST sng's another try sooner or later. Well actualy later more then sooner since they are the most basic/normal Sng's if you know what i mean. Lennonac an experienced SNG player has offered to coach me so i couldn't pass up on that offer.

So im going to read/reread the bronze and silver articles again today (i reread bronze ones yesterday). It might seem like alot but im not a completely new to st sng's so i already know most of it or atleast they are easy to understand since i have been in those situations.

Tomorrow i will start playing them again and send him hand histories. and hopefully i won't run -20% ROI. Although i am expecting to run bad (<- cmon hahaownedlolz, don't forget the power of positive thinking!!) so im going to play a few $0,25 sng's today so my bankroll will be $40 tomorrow and can take a few bad beats.

hopefully you can get a few games together, I just need two full sng hand histories one where you win and one where you are knocked out but not too early. I will then go about making a video for you.

After that horrible tilt session losing 8/8 SNG. i took yet another break. I like poker, but i'm really wondering if i should continue playing.
I mean 400 SNG's and im still breakeven. And that's only because the $0,25 MT are very soft and i grinded my way up with them every single time.

I was very motivated when i started this blog.. but it's starting to get less and less.. im really starting to doubt if im even half as good as i think i am. I try to keep improving, reading articles putting them in practice. But the results so far have been horrible. I haven't really played my A game lately but cashing 0 of 8 ST sng's is pretty bad.

To lennonac. im played 3 more st sng's.. i busted in one where i ran into a set with two pair leaving me with 500 chips. i almost doubled up with blindstealing when i ran into 10-10 with A-9 no surprise that i busted ofcourse.

So 2 more.. i highly doubt i can win one.. i just hope i can cash in one of them. Then hopefully you will review my game, and i could fix my leaks and hopefully get some better results.

Well.. i played really horrible. Not much to say. I'm playing well in the beginning and then i lose it all in a horribly played hand. I know its a dumb play, i know i should give the hand up and yet i make this donkey play anyway ♠

Well i've nearly given up on poker.

I don't know what it is.. am i running very bad? am i a bad player? maybe both? it's just i can never get a break. i've had huge downswings but not a single upswing at $1 tournaments.
Sure i get a suck out once in a while but i've never had a session where i was running really good for more then a few sng's

I knew it was a bad idea to start playing regular sng's again no matter how you look at it even the biggest donkey can cash in 1/11 $1 st sng's with even a little bit of luck.

I don't know what it is lately as i said before i haven't really felt i was playing the best i could. the last few sng's i actualy played quite well, till one hand. Which i will play like a complete donkey.

The hands i would usualy be on the other end of and think "why the hell did he do that? that doesn't make any sense.. stupid donkey.."

It's a long story but on this old computer the sound doesn't work anymore so hopefully when i get my new laptop next week i will watch some video's and hope it helps me play well again.

I might play some MT's over the next week, and hope i can build my bankroll up a little bit again.

Well, i'm playing poker again. I know i haven't updated in a long time. But that's because i've been busy and was tired of playing poker. So don't think i was grinding it out for all those months ♦

Just making sure my thread stays alive. (i don't know if threads get deleted after a while on this forum or not so i decided to bump it up). The next update, will probably be within a month. I'm going to grind some sng's each day. And when i've reached my goals i will post a real blog entry

Till then you can follow me on sharkscope if you want to see my progress. (I play on pokerstars, with the nickname: hahaownedlol)

Very interesting blog and your experiences are very much like mines.

I'll be following this with great interest!

Originally posted by wuttehhell
Very interesting blog and your experiences are very much like mines.

I'll be following this with great interest!

Thanks If you have a blog i'll check it out Don't expect an update any time soon though. If everything goes well my short-term goal should take about 3-4 weeks. The reason i don't want to post before that is because this blog has like 5 pages and my bankroll is below $50. Which is pretty rediculous in my opinion.

Grinding my way up again as usual I'm not sure if or when i mentioned it but my longterm goal since last year september has been to reach $1000 at my birthday this year at 26th of July, without having deposited a single dollar of my own. 3 months left, So it will be interesting to see if i will make it.

Edit: I think my biggest problem has been that i didn't adjust my playing style when playing in different types of SNG's if i look back at some of the hands i really made some really bad plays sometimes or too agressive which caused me to risk to many chips when it wasn't necessary. I'm happy that i do see that now though, since that means i've grown alot as a poker player

Nice blog, I'll keep an eye on this one. Good luck at the tables!

I've just read a bit more of your posts here...

5% ROI at the 2.2 HU I find pretty bad. To be honest, I haven't played HU much, cause I'm not bankrolled for that, but of the 18 sngs HU I've played I won 14 or 15. Stupidity of some players is beyond words, you just have to be patient and learn their game, then their stack is yours.

1.2 sng don't like me either.. I'm somewhere near breat even in 250 sngs or so, but that's inconclusive cause it's not enough volume.

Just like you, I'm a give 1.2 sngs another try, playing only 4 tables at a time now.

We seem to have similar interests, so why don't you add me on yahoo or skype to talk some more? wut_teh_hell

Good luck.

Originally posted by wuttehhell
I've just read a bit more of your posts here...

5% ROI at the 2.2 HU I find pretty bad. To be honest, I haven't played HU much, cause I'm not bankrolled for that, but of the 18 sngs HU I've played I won 14 or 15. Stupidity of some players is beyond words, you just have to be patient and learn their game, then their stack is yours.

1.2 sng don't like me either.. I'm somewhere near breat even in 250 sngs or so, but that's inconclusive cause it's not enough volume.

Just like you, I'm a give 1.2 sngs another try, playing only 4 tables at a time now.

We seem to have similar interests, so why don't you add me on yahoo or skype to talk some more? wut_teh_hell

Good luck.

I don't have yahoo or skype but i do got MSN. Anyway, 5% ROI isn't good for heads up but im happy in general about how i played. One of the reasons is why it's so low is because i stopped playing them while in a downsing.. if you look at the graph it's like a mountain lol. And i probably played too aggressive which caused me too risk chips when it wasn't necessary. I might give them a try again sooner or later, But for now im focusing on building up my bankroll again.

If i read my blog back myself, i regret saying quite alot of things. But it would be kinda lame to edit it all to make myself look better. I especially look stupid now that Vladd20 has become a coach xD. If your reading this vladd, Congratulations on becoming a coach!

Back on topic.. i wouldn't mind discussing poker or doing sweat sessions to try to improve our game The grinding has been going good, don't really want to post about that yet though.

p.s. forgot to add.. Heads up sng's have quite high variance too. Neither of us have a decent sample size to really say we are a winning player. You can't call 18 or my ~70 hu sng a decent sample size

Dude go get skype! I need another study partner and you seem like a good player ♦

Originally posted by gedwashere91
Dude go get skype! I need another study partner and you seem like a good player ♦

Don't know about a good player, but im definetly dedicated to poker atm. I'm still grinding my way up atm, at this pace i'm expecting to have reached my goal in 12 days. If you want to talk to me about poker though you can add me on msn: hahaownedlol@hotmail.com (That's my game/poker email )

edit: Probably going to get a mic soon just to lazy to order one.