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martijnde666
Joined: 29.02.2008
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This is an overview of my start at the 10NL zoom tables:
Now its time to grind and make volume :

I hope to reach my NL25 shot whitin a month (500$ BR ATM) :)


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martijnde666
Joined: 29.02.2008
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So I'm gonna fix my leaks:

One of the things I'm struggeling with is 4bet sizing:

Let me explain:

"The told me that my 4bets are to big, so I'm looking fot the ideal sizing (IP and OOP), I also have some bluff 4betts in my range (with A and K blockers vs high 3bet% from that specific position 7%+ at 10NL) and want to keep the sizing low because of the costs of it when it fails :P

Hero some examples at the 10NL stake:

IP: Hero (btn) 0.3$, SB raises to 0.9$ Hero???? (I'm doing 2,3$)
OOP: Hero (UTG) raises to 0.3$ CO raises 0.9$, Hero??? (I'm doing 2,9$)"


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Joined: 29.02.2008
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Against 2 75/20 whales:

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

SB: $4.29 (42.9 bb)
BB: $10.10 (101 bb)
UTG: $18.08 (180.8 bb)
MP: $9.85 (98.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $10.29 (102.9 bb)
BTN: $19.71 (197.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9♠ A♠
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN raises to $1, SB calls $0.95, BB folds, Hero calls $0.70

Flop: ($3.10) 8♠ K♠ 4♠ (3 players)
SB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, BTN raises to $2.30, SB folds, Hero raises to $9.29 and is all-in, BTN calls $6.99

Turn: ($22.18) 7♦ (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($22.18) 5♦ (2 players, 1 is all-in)

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Results: $22.18 pot ($1.00 rake)
Final Board: 8♠ K♠ 4♠ 7♦ 5♦
SB mucked and lost (-$1.50 net)
Hero showed 9♠ A♠ and won $21.18 ($10.89 net)
BTN showed K♣ A♣ and lost (-$10.29 net)

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Bluff induce on the river :)

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

SB: $16.04 (160.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $11.92 (119.2 bb)
UTG: $9.08 (90.8 bb)
MP: $11.88 (118.8 bb)
CO: $13.10 (131 bb)
BTN: $10.39 (103.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A♥ K♣
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.30, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1, MP calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.05) 5♣ 3♠ 7♥ (2 players)
Hero bets $1.47, MP calls $1.47

Turn: ($4.99) K♥ (2 players)
Hero bets $2.38, MP calls $2.38

River: ($9.75) 5♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $7, Hero calls $7

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Results: $23.75 pot ($1.07 rake)
Final Board: 5♣ 3♠ 7♥ K♥ 5♥
Hero showed A♥ K♣ and won $22.68 ($10.83 net)
MP showed T♥ T♠ and lost (-$11.85 net)

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Joined: 29.02.2008
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Just played a session ZOOM 10NL was 4BI up,

Doubt hands:

Mayby to much PLO in my head?

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

SB: $4.90 (49 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
UTG: $10.27 (102.7 bb)
Hero (MP): $26.28 (262.8 bb)
CO: $20.41 (204.1 bb)
BTN: $11.28 (112.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q A
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.30, CO folds, BTN calls $0.30, SB calls $0.25, BB folds

Flop: ($1) 4 8 3 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.48, BTN raises to $1.60, SB folds, Hero calls $1.12

Turn: ($4.20) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.25, Hero calls $2.25

River: ($8.70) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $7.13, Hero folds

Results:

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$8.70 pot ($0.39 rake)
Final Board: 4 8 3 A 3
Hero mucked Q A and lost (-$4.15 net)
BTN mucked and won $8.31 ($4.16 net)

Deep VS unknown

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

SB: $8.09 (80.9 bb)
Hero (BB): $21.48 (214.8 bb)
UTG: $10.25 (102.5 bb)
MP: $22.61 (226.1 bb)
CO: $10.18 (101.8 bb)
BTN: $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.30, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1, MP calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.05) 2 4 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.98, MP calls $0.98

Turn: ($4.01) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $2.20, Hero calls $2.20

River: ($8.41) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $4.40, Hero calls $4.40

Results:

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$17.21 pot ($0.77 rake)
Final Board: 2 4 3 Q 3
Hero showed K K and won $16.44 ($7.86 net)
MP showed 9 7 and lost (-$8.58 net)


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TJtheTJ
Joined: 12.10.2011
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Originally posted by martijnde666
So I'm gonna fix my leaks:

One of the things I'm struggeling with is 4bet sizing:

Let me explain:

"The told me that my 4bets are to big, so I'm looking fot the ideal sizing (IP and OOP), I also have some bluff 4betts in my range (with A and K blockers vs high 3bet% from that specific position 7%+ at 10NL) and want to keep the sizing low because of the costs of it when it fails :P

Hero some examples at the 10NL stake:

IP: Hero (btn) 0.3$, SB raises to 0.9$ Hero???? (I'm doing 2,3$)
OOP: Hero (UTG) raises to 0.3$ CO raises 0.9$, Hero??? (I'm doing 2,9$)"

In the first case I'd make it just $1.90, there's no need to make it larger especially because you're IP. When you're OOP I'd make it slightly larger, maybe $2.10 or something.

That's just what I do anyway, most people prefer to go with a more standard sizing of ~22bb when they 4bet. However I definitely agree that your current sizings are too large :)


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Joined: 29.02.2008
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TNX gonna 4bet smaller! :)

I have to plug some more leaks I think, my redline drops verry hard

Can anyone look at this stats and see what I'm doing wrong, calling 3bets I think??


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Joined: 29.02.2008
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Jokerstars :P

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

SB: $9.90 (99 bb)
Hero (BB): $10.25 (102.5 bb)
UTG: $2.35 (23.5 bb)
MP: $10.23 (102.3 bb)
CO: $9.62 (96.2 bb)
BTN: $23.26 (232.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T T
UTG raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, UTG folds, MP calls $1.20

Flop: ($3.35) T A 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.60, MP raises to $3.20, Hero raises to $8.75 and is all-in, MP calls $5.53 and is all-in

Turn: ($20.81) A (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($20.81) A (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results:

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$20.81 pot ($0.94 rake)
Final Board: T A 9 A A
Hero showed T T and won $0.00 (-$10.23 net)
MP showed A Q and won $19.87 ($9.64 net)


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Joined: 29.02.2008
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Gonna take a shot at 25NL zoom, asked some regulars at these stakes for the best times to do that:

"Definitely weekends and evenings. Don't try it in the morning, too reg infested imo. Plenty of fish around in the afternoons on weekdays though but evenings and weekends are the best times imo."

So Saturday it is :P


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Joined: 12.10.2011
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:f_biggrin:

Good luck man! :f_thumbsup:


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Joined: 29.02.2008
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friday night fishy time hahaha 2 BI up in about 600 hands.

I noticed some doubts about calling ranges while I was playing, can someone tell me what to do in these spots? Assuming that villian is a reggy 22-15-5

Call/fold or raise?

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

SB: $15.26 (152.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $18.21 (182.1 bb)
UTG: $10 (100 bb)
MP: $10 (100 bb)
CO: $22.89 (228.9 bb)
BTN: $7.94 (79.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q♦ A♣
UTG raises to $0.30, MP raises to $0.90, Hero folds right?, UTG calls $0.60

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

SB: $10 (100 bb)
BB: $17.42 (174.2 bb)
UTG: $10.69 (106.9 bb)
MP: $11.29 (112.9 bb)
Hero (CO): $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $13.89 (138.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J♠ A♣
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.30, Hero???

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

SB: $22.39 (223.9 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
UTG: $34.55 (345.5 bb)
MP: $3.17 (31.7 bb)
Hero (CO): $18.06 (180.6 bb)
BTN: $6.07 (60.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A♦ J♣
UTG raises to $0.30, MP folds, Hero??


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Joined: 16.01.2009
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Originally posted by martijnde666
friday night fishy time hahaha 2 BI up in about 600 hands.

I noticed some doubts about calling ranges while I was playing, can someone tell me what to do in these spots? Assuming that villian is a reggy 22-15-5

Call/fold or raise?

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

SB: $15.26 (152.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $18.21 (182.1 bb)
UTG: $10 (100 bb)
MP: $10 (100 bb)
CO: $22.89 (228.9 bb)
BTN: $7.94 (79.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q♦ A♣
UTG raises to $0.30, MP raises to $0.90, Hero folds right?, UTG calls $0.60

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

SB: $10 (100 bb)
BB: $17.42 (174.2 bb)
UTG: $10.69 (106.9 bb)
MP: $11.29 (112.9 bb)
Hero (CO): $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $13.89 (138.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J♠ A♣
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.30, Hero???

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

SB: $22.39 (223.9 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
UTG: $34.55 (345.5 bb)
MP: $3.17 (31.7 bb)
Hero (CO): $18.06 (180.6 bb)
BTN: $6.07 (60.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A♦ J♣
UTG raises to $0.30, MP folds, Hero??

Hand 1, fold
Hand 2, fold or 3bet bluff
Hand 3, fold or 3bet bluff


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Joined: 29.02.2008
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TNX!

This hand I played quitte wel I think, putted villian op a range for the first time:

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Hero (SB): $19.13 (191.3 bb)
BB: $21.23 (212.3 bb)
UTG: $10.50 (105 bb)
MP: $7.85 (78.5 bb)
CO: $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $21.54 (215.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K A
UTG raises to $0.30, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

flat call because villian opens a tight range UTG and I don't want to isolate myself against better, folding is to weak, so call is the best option.

Flop: ($0.90) 5 7 A (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.47, Hero calls $0.47, BB folds

Nice flop, villian c-bets 65%, so it contains bluffs and value hands, c/c call to get value te krijgen of AT+ and keep the bluffs in his range.

Turn: ($1.84) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1, Hero calls $1

C-bet turn is villian is only 40%, so villian only betts the value part off his range, this means AT+, 55 and 77 (33 is folded UTG by many regs) I call to get value from AT, AJ en AQ.

River: ($3.84) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.28, Hero calls $1.28

Easy call, would bet 55 en 77 a bit larger for value so I narrow his range here to exactly AJ/AK :) I don't raise because I dont want to isolate against better (AA/77/55) (top of villians range)

Results:

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$6.40 pot ($0.29 rake)
Final Board: 5 7 A 3 2
Hero showed K A and won $6.11 ($3.06 net)
UTG showed J A and lost (-$3.05 net)


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ok


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Joined: 29.02.2008
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I'm gonna transit to PLO I think, I played about 10K hands at PLO10 ZOOM and I like it a lot :)

I like the PLO action game where is a lot of fish and even the regulars make huge mistakes when I put pressure on them. Also know an 1-1 PLO live game I want to join at a weekly basis.

This time I gonna do all I can to make this a success, including 35% time to learn and 65% of my time to play.

Planning Jul 2014:

Coaching:

Gonna try private coaching by Kyyberi
Follow the public coachings (Thursday at 21:00)

Video's:

Watch a video before each session (Kyyberi, Alien Slayer and Phill galfond)

Articles/Books

Read "transitioning to PLO" by Slowhabit
Read al the PLO stuff at PS
Look for PLO blogs

Goals:

Play 2 Friday's PLO 1-1 live
Gold at PS
Gold at Stars
Play 35K hands on PLO10 ZOOM
Play at 2 tables max
Find A PLO skype group I can join
Post hands in blog and hand selection
Judge hands at the hand selection


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Joined: 29.02.2008
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Wow I love the plo swings, played a short session, hitted quitte everything 7 BI UP :)

Both AAxx hands at the same time (I play 2 tables ZOOM max)

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players

Hero (SB): $39.66 (396.6 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
UTG: $9.84 (98.4 bb)
MP: $2.78 (27.8 bb)
CO: $9.85 (98.5 bb)
BTN: $5.02 (50.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2 A J A
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.30, CO folds, BTN raises to $1.05, Hero raises to $3.55, BB folds, MP calls $2.48 and is all-in, BTN raises to $5.02, Hero calls $1.47

Flop: ($12.92) J 6 8 (3 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($12.92) 5 (3 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($12.92) T (3 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

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$12.92 pot ($0.55 rake)
Final Board: J 6 8 5 T
Hero showed 2 A J A and won $12.37 ($7.35 net)
MP showed Q T K 5 and lost (-$2.78 net)
BTN showed 5 K 4 3 and lost (-$5.02 net)

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $10 (100 bb)
BB: $9.69 (96.9 bb)
UTG: $9.90 (99 bb)
MP: $22.68 (226.8 bb)
Hero (CO): $31.73 (317.3 bb)
BTN: $14.31 (143.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K A 8 A
UTG raises to $0.35, MP folds, Hero raises to $1.20, 3 folds, UTG raises to $3.75, Hero raises to $11.40, UTG calls $6.15 and is all-in

Flop: ($19.95) T T 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($19.95) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($19.95) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

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$19.95 pot ($0.85 rake)
Final Board: T T 7 Q 3
UTG showed J 9 Q 5 and lost (-$9.90 net)
Hero showed K A 8 A and won $19.10 ($9.20 net)


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Joined: 29.02.2008
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Making moves against regulars :P

c op flop is deception and c/r turn for max value vs sets and draws:

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players

SB: $14.34 (143.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $15.28 (152.8 bb)
UTG: $21.24 (212.4 bb)
MP: $8.20 (82 bb)
CO: $19.06 (190.6 bb)
BTN: $28.76 (287.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4 T 3 T
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.20, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.75, SB folds, Hero calls $0.65, MP calls $0.55

Flop: ($2.30) 2 A 5 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, BTN bets $1.40, Hero calls $1.40, MP folds

Turn: ($5.10) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $4.88, Hero raises to $13.13, BTN calls $8.25

River: ($31.36) A (2 players)

Results:

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$31.36 pot ($1.33 rake)
Final Board: 2 A 5 8 A
Hero showed 4 T 3 T and won $30.03 ($14.75 net)
BTN showed 8 9 7 Q and lost (-$15.28 net)

Making the fish bluff seems nice, look at his stak when he folds (1,73$) :P (Turnbet coulb be bigger I see)

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players

SB: $10.05 (100.5 bb)
BB: $17.36 (173.6 bb)
UTG: $11.73 (117.3 bb)
Hero (MP): $32.68 (326.8 bb)
CO: $8.59 (85.9 bb)
BTN: $15.63 (156.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A K 8 T
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.30, CO calls $0.30, BTN folds, SB calls $0.25, BB folds

Flop: ($1) A K 3 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.72, CO calls $0.72, SB folds

Turn: ($2.44) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, CO calls $1.20

River: ($4.84) K (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $4.63, Hero raises to $9.26, CO folds

Results:

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$14.10 pot ($0.60 rake)
Final Board: A K 3 4 K
Hero mucked A K 8 T and won $13.50 ($6.65 net)
CO mucked and lost (-$6.85 net)


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Joined: 29.02.2008
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Just finished my vid for the coaching by Kybyberri, played badly, and got a litlte spewy at last, but ended op 4BI+, so thats great :P

Hand of the day, squeeze the fish, hit nuts :P

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players

SB: $5.97 (59.7 bb)
Hero (BB): $25.32 (253.2 bb)
UTG: $23.52 (235.2 bb)
MP: $3.25 (32.5 bb)
CO: $14.85 (148.5 bb)
BTN: $9.93 (99.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5 J J A
UTG raises to $0.20, MP calls $0.20, 2 folds, SB calls $0.15, Hero raises to $1, UTG calls $0.80, MP calls $0.80, SB calls $0.80

Flop: ($4) J 6 3 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.70, UTG folds, MP calls $2.25 and is all-in, SB raises to $4.97 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.27

Turn: ($16.19) Q (3 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($16.19) 7 (3 players, 2 are all-in)

Results:

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$16.19 pot ($0.69 rake)
Final Board: J 6 3 Q 7
SB showed 3 4 6 Q and lost (-$5.97 net)
Hero showed 5 J J A and won $15.50 ($9.53 net)
UTG mucked and lost (-$1 net)
MP showed Q J 4 A and lost (-$3.25 net)


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Joined: 29.02.2008
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Yesterday I had my first coaching and I'm happy with it, was a real eye-opener.

Coach bases all his decisions very much on the mathematical background (Equity / SPR / call 3/4bets etc) and I found out that I really like it, and see that I can make a real difference if I get it all mastered.

This theoretical background has given me immediately new insights on open-ranges, c-bet sizings, c/r, potcontroll etc.

I'm going to buy a package of 6 hours (about $ 21/h) and spend the coming weeks to work hard on my PLO game.

That should be enough to get the basics covered and beat PLO10 and PLO25 (value orientated style)


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Joined: 29.02.2008
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Nice time to play saturday morning from 4 til 6, lots of deepstacked fishes and no regs to bother about :P

Played 35-30-10 en nobody even noticed haha :)

The coaching helped me a lot, no more folding equity PF for me :P

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players

SB: $27.07 (270.7 bb)
BB: $16.02 (160.2 bb)
UTG: $16.84 (168.4 bb)
Hero (MP): $20.29 (202.9 bb)
CO: $10.30 (103 bb)
BTN: $35.38 (353.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 5 6 8 7
UTG raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $0.75, CO folds, BTN calls $0.75, 2 folds, UTG raises to $3.15, Hero calls $2.40, BTN calls $2.40

Flop: ($9.60) 4 7 6 (3 players)
UTG bets $9.19, Hero raises to $17.14 and is all-in, BTN folds, UTG calls $4.50 and is all-in

Turn: ($36.98) 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($36.98) 2 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results:

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$36.98 pot ($1.50 rake)
Final Board: 4 7 6 5 2
UTG showed A 8 A K and lost (-$16.84 net)
Hero showed 5 6 8 7 and won $35.48 ($18.64 net)
BTN mucked and lost (-$3.15 net)


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