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thazar
Joined: 14.09.2009
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Originally posted by jbpatzer

Originally posted by chenny8888
i hope you clicked sit out after that hand

Nope. As I said, I was happy with the rest of the session. I think I've got this sort of total brain fart down to about once a week. It used to be once or more per session. I think the fact that number one son was going off on one at mrsjb at the time may have led to some displacement of aggression from rl. You can get arrested for tearing off your son's head and ripping out his lungs (or so I'm told), but there's just a small financial and emotional penalty for spazzing off a random stack.

Onward and upward.

Expensive relief at NL50 :P


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009
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Originally posted by thazar

Originally posted by jbpatzer

Originally posted by chenny8888
i hope you clicked sit out after that hand

Nope. As I said, I was happy with the rest of the session. I think I've got this sort of total brain fart down to about once a week. It used to be once or more per session. I think the fact that number one son was going off on one at mrsjb at the time may have led to some displacement of aggression from rl. You can get arrested for tearing off your son's head and ripping out his lungs (or so I'm told), but there's just a small financial and emotional penalty for spazzing off a random stack.

Onward and upward.

Expensive relief at NL50 :P

Cheaper than NL100.


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Joined: 23.11.2009
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Managed to win my money back, so this month I so far have a sick profit of $4 from 2K hands of NL50.....and that's before rakeback!

Does anyone have an opinion on this hand? I'm pretty sure I should have bet the turn, but a little voice in my head was saying, 'minraise, call, call.... he has AA'! But surely he wouldn't just flat the flop on a FD board with AA? In fact, since I have A :heart: maybe I should have check raised AI on the turn? As played, should I call his river bet? His stats suggest he's not much of a bluffster on the river.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($50)
Button ($31.65)
jbpatzer (SB) ($121.95)
BB ($51.50)
UTG ($61.20)
MP ($64.70) 18/14, AF = 2.3, 3bet = 4%, WTSD = 19%, 365 hands

Preflop: jbpatzer is SB with K♦, A♥
1 fold, MP bets $1, 2 folds, jbpatzer raises to $3.75, 1 fold, MP calls $2.75

Flop: ($8) 5♦, 3♥, K♥ (2 players)
jbpatzer bets $5.25, MP calls $5.25

Turn: ($18.50) Q♥ (2 players)
jbpatzer checks, MP bets $11, jbpatzer calls $11

River: ($40.50) 3♠ (2 players)
jbpatzer checks, MP bets $33.50, jbpatzer ????


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StaticMoth
Joined: 22.05.2009
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Raise bigger pre ...

I would c/shove turn with the A :heart:

As played, I can't see a hand he plays that way that you beat, so c/f river.

Originally posted by vonki
Got any clue how much he calls vs 3b?

and his (general/river) AFq ?!

sample might not be sufficient for those stats buut ...

If AFq is high then his low WTSD might be coz he's very polarized and makes ppl fold a lot when they show weakness by barreling and using his tightish image.

If AFq is low, then ofc easy c/f.


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Joined: 23.11.2009
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Originally posted by vonki
Got any clue how much he calls vs 3b?

87% fold to 3bet, 7% 4bet, 6% call 3bet, but only 15 hands


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vonki
Joined: 18.03.2008
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doesnt make me much wiser...

but I think agree with static, that I don't see him playing any hands this way that you beat... and given the tightish WTS I think we can assume he won't be bluffing all that much either?

It's hard to put him on something specific xD These are the spots i struggle with too %)


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tcs35
Joined: 31.01.2009
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im betting turn and shoving any river

as played it's a easy fold river based on his stats.

i believe it was balugawhale who said this: "your guess is as good as mine here", what he means that you are making the hand difficult for yourself by putting yourself in tought spots and that is something he himself doesn't do. so if you make your decisions easy then you obv have easier decisions, where c/c the turn puts you in a horrible spot on the river when you don't hit ur flush


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Wryzeth
Joined: 25.09.2010
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Wow, can't believe I never read this blog before. The introduction blew me away, you have a great style! I only just finished the first page, so it'll take some time to catch up and see what you've been through, and what's happening now. :)

Good luck sir, enjoy poker as much as I enjoy your writing! ;)


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Wriggers
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Originally posted by Wryzeth
Wow, can't believe I never read this blog before. The introduction blew me away, you have a great style! I only just finished the first page, so it'll take some time to catch up and see what you've been through, and what's happening now. :)

Good luck sir, enjoy poker as much as I enjoy your writing! ;)

You must be the only person on Pokerstrategy to not read this blog


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Originally posted by Wryzeth
Wow, can't believe I never read this blog before. The introduction blew me away, you have a great style! I only just finished the first page, so it'll take some time to catch up and see what you've been through, and what's happening now. :)

Good luck sir, enjoy poker as much as I enjoy your writing! ;)

You must be the only person on Pokerstrategy to not read this blog

I know 1 more
But thats about it


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Managed to win my money back, so this month I so far have a sick profit of $4 from 2K hands of NL50.....and that's before rakeback!

ROFL , I read it as $4k initially when i saw the SICK word then i realized its $4.

I had similar thing since last 3 days in NL25, 4k hands, just $1.5 up, graph looks funny


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Joined: 23.11.2009
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Originally posted by Wryzeth
Wow, can't believe I never read this blog before. The introduction blew me away, you have a great style! I only just finished the first page, so it'll take some time to catch up and see what you've been through, and what's happening now. :)

Good luck sir, enjoy poker as much as I enjoy your writing! ;)

Always pleased to hear about a happy new reader. My endless appetite for attention is duly satisfied. The first page is the best. It's all dull after that.


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tcs35
Joined: 31.01.2009
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Originally posted by jbpatzer
Always pleased to hear about a happy new reader. My endless appetite for attention is duly satisfied. The first page is the best. It's all dull after that.

he is entirely correct, apart from what he said about the first page


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Ended up about 1BI up tonight. Totally card dead for ages (reminded me of when TT is watching, nothing happens for hand after hand and I gradually leak money), then booooom, nut straight > idiot end of straight. But the weirdest thing that happened was that I opened KK from the CO, SB 3 bets, I 4bet, and he types into the chat box 'Man, sickest fold ever', 'I know you have KK', 'You have KK right?'. :f_eek: I know it's not rigged, but wtf! It's not like I'm shy of 4betting light. I was freaked out. Coincidence I guess.

I'm off to London tomorrow to do some external examining (jb = guardian of academic standards for top London University maths department's undergraduate degrees :coolface: ). Unfortunately it's also our wedding anniversary, so that's a bit shit. Having a day off on Friday to make up for it. In the meantime, this track is for mrsjb. I have to post it here because she hates Rush, but equally she never reads my blog, so she won't hear it. Makes sense. Sort of.


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Wryzeth
Joined: 25.09.2010
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Originally posted by THESHade

Originally posted by Wriggers
You must be the only person on Pokerstrategy to not read this blog

I know 1 more
But thats about it

The shame... :f_frown:

As a penance, I'll make it my personal quest to spread the word about this jewel with my fellow Dutch communitymembers that still remain in darkness. :f_p:

Also, Rush. :f_love: I've been to their concert in Rotterdam like two weeks ago or something with my father, it was amazing. They're like sixty-something now, yet so good. Especially the drummer is totally nuts and fantastic. You should totally let your kids listen to them, I can't thank my father enough for teaching me what real music is. :f_thumbsup:


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Wriggers
Joined: 21.07.2009
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The drumming in Tom Sawyer is absolutley amazing _cool:


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007
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Originally posted by jbpatzer
Managed to win my money back, so this month I so far have a sick profit of $4 from 2K hands of NL50.....and that's before rakeback!

Does anyone have an opinion on this hand? I'm pretty sure I should have bet the turn, but a little voice in my head was saying, 'minraise, call, call.... he has AA'! But surely he wouldn't just flat the flop on a FD board with AA? In fact, since I have A :heart: maybe I should have check raised AI on the turn? As played, should I call his river bet? His stats suggest he's not much of a bluffster on the river.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($50)
Button ($31.65)
jbpatzer (SB) ($121.95)
BB ($51.50)
UTG ($61.20)
MP ($64.70) 18/14, AF = 2.3, 3bet = 4%, WTSD = 19%, 365 hands

Preflop: jbpatzer is SB with K♦, A♥
1 fold, MP bets $1, 2 folds, jbpatzer raises to $3.75, 1 fold, MP calls $2.75

Flop: ($8) 5♦, 3♥, K♥ (2 players)
jbpatzer bets $5.25, MP calls $5.25

Turn: ($18.50) Q♥ (2 players)
jbpatzer checks, MP bets $11, jbpatzer calls $11

River: ($40.50) 3♠ (2 players)
jbpatzer checks, MP bets $33.50, jbpatzer ????

betting is much better on the turn for value from a lot of his pair + :heart: draws on the turn that you obviously have hugely crushed. A ton of those hands call a lot of sizes on the turn but will check behind and play pot control if you check. Thus it's already better to bet. I would say that even though after betting sometimes you are in a FML spot if villain shoves (oh no oh no what do i do, do i bet/call or bet/fold????) if you just bet/DO-ANYTHING you will be more profitable than checking the turn.

As played I agree with folding the river.

BTW, take it how you will, i used to have the EXACT same leak as you in this spot (not even that long ago!). I wouldn't check/call quite as strong a hand, but I would c/c the turn far too often on these boards where the flush comes in. Especially with the more awkward stacksizes.


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Joined: 23.11.2009
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Originally posted by chenny8888
BTW, take it how you will, i used to have the EXACT same leak as you in this spot (not even that long ago!).

Chenny had the same leak as me! Chenny had the same leak as me! :f_love:

That's bad. :f_mad:

I think TT is too busy taxi surfing in NY to look at my hands, which is fair enough, so thanks for all the comments. For completeness Villain had

Spoiler

a hand that we will never know, as I folded. Next time I will bet the turn!


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Joined: 23.11.2009
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Originally posted by Wryzeth
Also, Rush. :f_love: I've been to their concert in Rotterdam like two weeks ago or something with my father, it was amazing. They're like sixty-something now, yet so good. Especially the drummer is totally nuts and fantastic. You should totally let your kids listen to them, I can't thank my father enough for teaching me what real music is. :f_thumbsup:

I've seen them three times now, the first, and best, time in 1983, fortunately without my father. You lot don't know how lucky you are having parents with whom you have at least some chance of sharing the same interest in music. When I was growing up, my enthusiasm for heavy rock was pretty mysterious to my parents. They just don't have the musical vocabulary to understand. A couple of years ago they were visiting and we had Crowded House on quietly in the background and my mum said 'I see you still like your heavy metal.' There's just no answer to that. It's like trying to explain cricket to central Europeans (not thinking of anyone in particular Boris).


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