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Joined: 15.03.2010
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I'm re-reading the mental game of poker (because it's such a good book and so helpful). I'm writing down elements of my own game, I figured this would be a good place to do it so I can look back on it and others can comment.

In general I'm pretty happy with my mental game, I think my lack of tilt is a big asset. I tend to understand why I'm doing what I'm doing and why it makes me money. I do get angry occasionally, when I make a terrible decision, misread my hand (happened a handful of times in my life, but once happened twice in 5 minutes) or my internet goes/client freezes.

I'm naturally a very cautious person, I thought getting good at poker would make me a better risk taker and to an extent it has. That said it's quite rare SNG players make 'big bluffs' in the same sense as how poker is portrayed.

Most of my issues are off the table and affect my motivation to play and my stamina when playing.

I'm not too results orientated but since I've started playing poker I've run quite far under EV for 99% of my playing time. I'm currently at around 6% ROI at around 1000 games, my EV is 12.6% ROI and as it is my entire poker career it's quite some way to be under. I really do focus on making the right decisions, I just feel some pressure to make this hobby into a supplemental/backup source of income for me.

I have big issues dealing with bad recreational players, I think this may be more common than some would like to admit. Dealing with weak regs is easy because you're playing in the same language, you are just better at understanding that language and how to manipulate it to your advantage.

Against bad recreational players it's very difficult, it's like trying to stop a suicidal wrecking ball. Some of the time it's better to just step out of the way and let them knock themselves out and gain you equity, but a lot of the time I feel i'm missing profitable spots to take money without a showdown which would be very profitable over time.

I am looking to improve the mindset with regards to targeting weaker players on my table. I believe I'm past the point where I need to religiously stick to a starting hand chart in the early and middle stages of an SNG. I understand the thought process behind them and most of the time stick fairly close but I believe I know when to deviate to exploit an opportunity. The problems are that in many ways the bad players have a slight upper hand 1v1 against you because they aren't playing on the same terms (logic etc.), of course overall they are losing players because they don't understand when to avoid such confrontation. I frequently review hands with others where we spend time putting a range on a bad player only to be completely wrong. Logically evaluating an irrational player is not logical, so how do we analyze them.

I am going to try and play harder against bad players when I'm in a hand with them. Depending on reads and situation I will relax some of my value for going to showdown, play small ball when appropriate and generally keep my nerve. I'll mark all the hands I do this in an review them to see whether I am indeed generating value from the situations and how I can keep improving.

I'm also going to improve my diet and preparation in order to improve my mental stamina for playing poker. I want to be able to grind for 3-4 hours whereas 2 hours is currently my average session time.


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zachrina
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Best of luck Paul. You'll go far I'm sure

As you know I also have trouble dealing with rec's. Only yesterday a guy who had knocked out two guys in the first hand managed to despatch of me two hands later after calling my squeeze shove with Q6o into my AK (it was a 6x open and a flat) As this occurred alongside two other similar situations my game was definitely effected, I only realised this today after reviewing a horrible bubble (sucked out on twice, two opps getting two split pots blah blah blah). I held back in at least 3 clear shoving spots, two of which were ATC.

I will also be tackling The Mental Game over the coming weeks. I think I could use it.


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Ramble
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I'm about 75% through The Mental Game of Poker, pleased with it so far. I think once I'm done, I am going to give it another quick going over and make a note of the parts that really resonated with me.

One thing that really stood out for me was the concept that tilt isn't just about getting mad or playing spewy, but about not playing your best game (and applying what you are in the process of learning) because you are no longer able to think clearly. So you can feel like you aren't tilting (in terms of anger or playing out-of-control point) because you are relatively calm, but you are on tilt in terms of not effectively managing your decisions.

I'm not sure if that applies to you, but it was a huge light-bulb moment for me.


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Originally posted by Ramble
One thing that really stood out for me was the concept that tilt isn't just about getting mad or playing spewy, but about not playing your best game (and applying what you are in the process of learning) because you are no longer able to think clearly. So you can feel like you aren't tilting (in terms of anger or playing out-of-control point) because you are relatively calm, but you are on tilt in terms of not effectively managing your decisions.

I'm not sure if that applies to you, but it was a huge light-bulb moment for me.

To an extent, I was playing just now and reached about 6 bubbles at the same time and it certainly clouded some of my thinking space.

I think that because I'm not implementing huge changes at once, I manage to avoid this fairly well. At the moment I'm putting my raise/fold ranges into action at 13-18bb but appropriate moments seem to be relatively infrequent, so I've been getting practice with it fairly well without it taking constant thinking space.

It's definitely true that when I feel overloaded I revert to almost complete unconscious competence. Luckily a lot of the ICM decisions I make are unconscious. I learned via osmosis with SNG Wiz quiz, I find quizzes are a great way for me to learn either via memory or just getting an understanding for the relationships between the factors (in the case of ICM).


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A big factor in hands analyzed in recent study sessions is the stack to pot ratio (SPR).

Simply put the lower our SPR the less room we have to maneuver post flop. Equally the higher our SPR the less willing we have to be to play for stacks with top pair because there are better implied odds to be playing postflop with low pocket pairs and suited connectors.

I've been thinking about super low SPR play, for example with 13bb you raise with part of your raise shove/fold ranges and instead of the convenient shove or fold you hope to get back the recreational player in the small blind flat calls you with his 9bb stack.

We now have effective stacks of 7.5bb and a 5bb pot (7.5/5 = SPR of 1.5 ie extremely low). What's our approach to the flop?

I actually think this is a spot where first to act has an advantage.. luckily a situation where you are not first to act v a good player will be rare because a good player would be shove/fold preflop v our raise.

Given the low SPR should we just be blind shoving any flop?


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Jan 2014

Tournaments played: 580
ROI: 3%
EV ROI: 9%
Net Winnings: $30.26
EV$ Net Winnings: $80.95

Could have been worse, bit frustrating to not be moving up stakes due to variance but that's poker.. deal with it or stop really.


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Originally posted by pauln

Jan 2014

Tournaments played: 580
ROI: 3%
EV ROI: 9%
Net Winnings: $30.26
EV$ Net Winnings: $80.95

Could have been worse, bit frustrating to not be moving up stakes due to variance but that's poker.. deal with it or stop really.

Is this only $1.5?


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rmslobato
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Originally posted by pauln
We now have effective stacks of 7.5bb and a 5bb pot (7.5/5 = SPR of 1.5 ie extremely low). What's our approach to the flop?

I actually think this is a spot where first to act has an advantage.. luckily a situation where you are not first to act v a good player will be rare because a good player would be shove/fold preflop v our raise.

Is this the base of "stop-and-go" or "go-and-go" plays, isn't?
and also the "non all in - all in".

If the agressor didn't hit anything, sb shove will have a decent FE and maybe a higher equity compared pre-flop with all-in pre-flops.

I think most of time I tried to non-all in-all in I had worst result.
(i'll try to check that)


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I found one hand we can use to discuss

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Poker Stars $1.32+$0.18 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t50/t100 Blinds - 8 players

MP1: t1645 16.45 BBs
MP2: t1495 14.95 BBs
CO: t1445 14.45 BBs
Hero (BTN): t1150 11.50 BBs
SB: t900 9 BBs
BB: t1860 18.60 BBs
UTG: t3205 32.05 BBs
UTG+1: t1800 18 BBs

Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is BTN with A♠ 2♦
5 folds, Hero raises to t200, SB calls t150, 1 fold

Flop: (t500) 7♥ 2♥ 7♣ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t250, SB raises to t700 all in, Hero calls t450

Turn: (t1900) 6♣ (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t1900) 5♠ (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t1900
Hero shows A♠ 2♦ (two pair, Sevens and Deuces)
SB shows 7♦ 9♠ (three of a kind, Sevens)
SB wins t1900


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Originally posted by rmslobato

Originally posted by pauln
We now have effective stacks of 7.5bb and a 5bb pot (7.5/5 = SPR of 1.5 ie extremely low). What's our approach to the flop?

I actually think this is a spot where first to act has an advantage.. luckily a situation where you are not first to act v a good player will be rare because a good player would be shove/fold preflop v our raise.

Is this the base of "stop-and-go" or "go-and-go" plays, isn't?
and also the "non all in - all in".

If the agressor didn't hit anything, sb shove will have a decent FE and maybe a higher equity compared pre-flop with all-in pre-flops.

I think most of time I tried to non-all in-all in I had worst result.
(i'll try to check that)

Yes exactly. Although when some fish flats your min raise with 8bb effective it's hardly a planned move anymore

I think in the right situation it's profitable (against weak reg/passive opponents), but I did it against a recreational player earlier, I had Q7o or something like that.. board was AJ6 and he called my shove with Kx so even weak players can be aware of what you're doing.


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Originally posted by pauln

Jan 2014

Tournaments played: 580
ROI: 3%
EV ROI: 9%
Net Winnings: $30.26
EV$ Net Winnings: $80.95

Could have been worse, bit frustrating to not be moving up stakes due to variance but that's poker.. deal with it or stop really.

I must say, that is one solid all-in EV line.


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I'm uploading a bunch of sng videos onto 4shared. I'll send you the link tomorrow when we do our session.

It has a lot of interesting stuff so I'm sure it'll benefit you a lot :)


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Originally posted by rmslobato

Spoiler

Originally posted by pauln

Jan 2014

Tournaments played: 580
ROI: 3%
EV ROI: 9%
Net Winnings: $30.26
EV$ Net Winnings: $80.95

Could have been worse, bit frustrating to not be moving up stakes due to variance but that's poker.. deal with it or stop really.

Is this only $1.5?

$1 and $2.25s on full tilt but my average buyin was $1.52 so yeah effectively $1.5


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rmslobato
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Originally posted by maythany
I must say, that is one solid all-in EV line.

That's true, I wish it were mine LoL
:P


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Ramble
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Originally posted by rmslobato

Originally posted by pauln
We now have effective stacks of 7.5bb and a 5bb pot (7.5/5 = SPR of 1.5 ie extremely low). What's our approach to the flop?

I think most of time I tried to non-all in-all in I had worst result.
(i'll try to check that)

Admittedly, I don't employ this strategy very often, and human nature is to remember the beats more than the wins, but I have to agree with rmslobato, that my first instinct is to say that I have lost more in this set-up than I have won.

As for January, nice results for the month sir - keep it up!


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That's fair enough, I think it would take quite a big sample to determine the value of stop and go's. I'm not suggesting doing them all the time but against guys who are passive post flop.. it has to have a better expectation surely?

I will come up with some goals for February later today. I will be around tomorrow afternoon/evening to do a group session where we can look over some hands and I'll try to demonstrate holdem resources calculator a bit.


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zachrina
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I'm in. Had a busy day today on little sleep. Wolf of Wall Street is quality BTW.

I'll be available after 5pm for sure.


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February Goals:

:club: Play a minimum of 600 games at the $2.25/$5 levels.

:club: Improve my decision making calling shoves.

:club: Master Holdem Resources Calculator.

:club: Continue to improve my equity v range skills using equilab quizzes.


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I'm doing nicely so far, up just over $100 in the past few days.
Currently 62 played out of my 600 game minimum goal. Looking to put in as much volume as possible so I'm not feeling too under pressure at the end of the month.

I should hit silver edge tomorrow which is a nice bonus.

So far the $5 games feel identical to the $2.25. The regs are the same guys in the $2.25s a lot of the time. I think this is due to the volume on fulltilt, it's decent but not quite enough to play 16 tables of any one level above the $1s.

The regular speed games have been so profitable so I'm adding them in liberally as I believe I'm making a similar if not greater $/hour in them due to the abundance of recreational players and lack of regs.

I've been doing a lot of playing sessions watched by fellow poker friends and this is improving me a lot. I have to justify my decisions immediately and I think it keeps me disciplined and more honest when I'm making a bad decision.

I'm starting to feel a lot more comfortable post flop, I am much more comfortable playing recreational players now.

I need to keep improving post flop and improve my ranges on the bubble.


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rmslobato
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Yeah, that's it paul!

Keep running good! _cool:


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