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When you figure it out tell me to pls .


_Anonymous_ Topic starter
_Anonymous_

When you figure it out tell me to pls .

Eh, won't happen in my fucking lifetime.

It's getting beyond sickness. I am officially losing for 1 month now. I think I had 2 winning sessions in 30 days or so.

Will record a session, to reassure I'm doing the right things.


_Anonymous_ Topic starter
_Anonymous_

Ok, recorded <30 min. PLO10 SH video, 2 tabling, split video in two parts. No audio, so just a boring video. Will watch it later to see what I'm doing wrong.

Haven't checked the videos, so no idea about quality and stuff.


_Anonymous_ Topic starter
_Anonymous_

Finally out of the slump, third winning session in a row, shipped 5BI today.

1/6th of the bonus is cleared + 2 stellar rewards acquired = nice.

Im back to watching videos/learning MTT, want to ship some donkament :f_frown:

Today played in a $5.5 $12K gtd, got out KK vs AA, standard stuff :f_p:

Hopefuly, finally finally finally i get new windows tomorrow which should fix my HEM problems. Weeeeeeeee. Until then.

EDIT: Oh, also Im not tracked at stars, so bronze level - here i come!


_Anonymous_ Topic starter
_Anonymous_
Jackalof came back from the hole, someone resuscitate the unbeliever!

So, finally finally finally finally finally finally finally finally I am back with some HEM graph/hands action.

Today's session (what a waste of grind time, right? :f_p: ):

Boom. Kind of.

What else:

- was near sea on weekend, swimming/ball game action. Also beer.
- sick heat, I'm out of clean underpants.
- cracked front window of my car.
- full tilt wrote to me stating 'come back and play at our site'. No bonus offers, nothing. Just come back and play, you hear, bitch? Or else!
- check out Irooz's blog, he's the ultimate PLO force of the future. And I'm somewhat jealous.
- NightFrostAss got interviewed. Not jealous at all. Hate publicity. Hate pubes. Love pubs. Love rhymes. Busta rhymes.

Im clearly on overheat, so I better stop this blog update before it's too late. Ta-ta!

EDIT: Oh, and I've watched movie called 'Wrestler' yesterday. I had it for a long time, but was discouraged to watch it by some bad opinions towards the movie. Nevertheless I have decided to watch it yesterday.....oh my god.......bring me back my wasted time.......what did that movie get any award for? it was painfully grey and predictable and stupid. Seriously, how stupid is the scenario? You want some quality stuff, Rourke? Contact Seth MacFarlane or Seth Green. Meanwhile I'm suing you for terrible movie which made my face hurt.


_Anonymous_ Topic starter
_Anonymous_

1000 hands in, results:

Meh session, same villain was sitting to my direct left on all four tables, was hard :f_cool:

Hope to hit GoldStar in 3 days and start harvesting those FPPs then wasting them in hyper-turbos :f_p:

Made straight flush today, weee :f_p: Did not get much with it thou :f_confused:

EDIT: UPDATE

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :f_p: epic :f_p: Sure lets throw it all to the garbage can, after all day grind. Love it. PLO is the best :f_biggrin:


_Anonymous_ Topic starter
_Anonymous_

What is this? Alien sighting?

Will go cook smth nice to overcome this crap :f_biggrin:


From just a quick glance to your blog:

Could it be you are too result oriented ? Especially short term. Almost every pots comes with a graph showing results of the day (often even updated once or twice). Maybe it would be better to focus on how you played the hands, perhaps post an interesting one here and rather check on your results after the session or day or week has ended ?

btw: it may all sound very nice, but I truly also SUCK in accomplishing this, also need to work on it.

I'll try to follow this blog from now on, as I'm totally new to PLO, but like it so far. Playing .02/.05 on stars atm and just swinging around b-e learning the tricks and the trades on the game.
Are you turning some profit atm long-run?


_Anonymous_ Topic starter
_Anonymous_

Hey skimon, thanks for opinion,

well I post daily graphs to keep this blog alive and keep me motivated to play and stuff. Also losing hand history/data is not uncommon for me so at least I save it in my blog :f_p:

Usually I'm tired after the session and cannot be bothered to post or analyse hands. But now I logged on in the morning, before the grind, so I can post some hands from yesterday, I guess :f_p:

First of all, graph:

Typical swing-a-ling, eh? :f_biggrin:

Hands: (im just messing, underlined text does not mean it is hyperlinked :f_p: )

$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero ($71.39)
UTG+1 ($26.90)
CO ($26.37)
BTN ($30.84)
SB ($35.42)
BB ($26.34)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is UTG 8♦ 5♦ 9♣ 6♠
Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.75, 2 folds

Flop: 10:spade: 7♠ 7♣ ($1.85, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.25, BTN calls $1.25

Turn: 3♣ ($4.35, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

River: A♥ ($9.35, 2 players)
Hero bets $4.25, BTN folds

Final Pot: $13.60

It's fun when some guys always float flop, and always stab turn :f_p:

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$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($25)
UTG+1 ($55.81)
CO ($26.18)
Hero ($55.48)
SB ($28.57)
BB ($26.67)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is BTN Q♠ 8♠ 8♦ A♠
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 1 fold, BB calls $0.50

Flop: J♠ 2♥ 6♥ ($1.60, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1, BB calls $1

Turn: 7♠ ($3.60, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: 9♥ ($3.60, 2 players)
BB bets $1.25, Hero raises to $5, BB folds

Final Pot: $9.85

Same float story. He's folding all his crap including weak flushes.

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$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($33.32)
UTG+1 ($33.85)
Hero ($25)
BTN ($24.65)
SB ($59.26)
BB ($29.86)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is CO 10:club: 9♥ 7♣ J♣
UTG raises to $0.85, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.85, 2 folds, BB calls $0.60

Flop: Q♦ 5♥ K♣ ($2.65, 3 players)
BB bets $1.75, UTG calls $1.75, Hero calls $1.75

Turn: 9♣ ($7.90, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $7, BB calls $7, UTG folds

River: 9♦ ($21.90, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $9.99, BB calls $9.99

Final Pot: $41.88
Hero shows
10:club: 9♥ 7♣ J♣
BB shows
2♥ 3♣ 5♠ 9♠

Vs maniac who plays 94% of hands. Easy v-bet on river, he calls off with random trash. Would fold to a raise obv. Anyway, he pwned me on river, I was 92.5% favourite on the turn :f_p:


_Anonymous_ Topic starter
_Anonymous_

Putting some nice volume in the last couple days, break even results thou :f_frown:

Reached GoldStar, got 4th Stellar Reward = nice. What is not nice is that all those VIP MTTs run on Saturdays :f_frown: Im usually not around on Saturdays. Meh.

Fun stuff: entered $3 hyper turbo sat to $33 MTT. Wanted to ship it and unregister to get $T. 42 entrants, I luckbox to top 3 which get the ticket. Boom, turns out MTT already started and I get seated there without the ability to unregister :f_cry: Anyway, had a terrible, just horrific card run and was out in the second hour. Only premiums I got were QQ and AK, in 100 hands or so :f_p: Still managed to play 20 VPIP or so, trying to accumulate chips. Until my AJo ran into 77 :f_cool:

Anyway. Couple of hands from yesterday:

$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
4 Players

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 4 players) Hero is BB K♣ 4♠ Q♥ K♥
1 fold, BTN raises to $0.85, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: 4♥ Q♠ 7♠ ($1.80, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, BTN calls $3

Turn: 6♦ ($10.80, 2 players)
Hero bets $7.75, BTN calls $7.75

River: 10:club: ($26.30, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Final Pot: $26.30
Hero shows
K♣ 4♠ Q♥ K♥
BTN shows
J♠ 6♠ A♣ 10:diamond:

Getting value from a guy who opens most buttons and peels/floats alot with bad draws.

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$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is BB Q♥ Q♣ 9♥ 10:club:
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.85, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: 8♠ 5♦ J♣ ($1.80, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks

Turn: 6♥ ($1.80, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.25, UTG+1 calls $1.25

River: 6♣ ($4.30, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $4.09, Hero calls $4.09

Final Pot: $12.48
UTG+1 shows
A♠ 4♠ 8♣ 3♣
Hero shows
Q♥ Q♣ 9♥ 10:club:

Vs maniac. Love catching their bluffs :f_p:

That's it, going camping in an hour or so, so I better grind some. Be back on Sunday evening.


Quick question:

how accurate is all-in EV on holdem? Do you see yourself playing catch and run with it or is it just hopelessly out of bounds and not a good estimate? Of course I know that you need to play toooons of hands in order to see those occurrences multiple times in order for them to even out in the long run.

Just because I'm running quite a bit under it, but if it's a good estimate, I couldn't care less, then I know I'm playing OK :)

Still spewing away money after I have a nice run, not believing those fishes have the nuts when going AI, but most of the time they do. I always forget they pay off real nice with crap, but you should believe an unknowns aggression :P


_Anonymous_ Topic starter
_Anonymous_

Well, I find myself under EV more often than not. I think it depends on your playing style, if you float/peel/do crazy stuff alot you get lucky more and run above EV more often. Don't worry too much about that EV line IMO :f_p:

but you should believe an unknowns aggression

Haha, exactly, they should, damn donkeys :f_biggrin:

Anyway, was out for the weekend, played some hands on Friday, results:

$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players

Stacks:
UTG ($29.28)
UTG+1 ($25)
CO ($69.83)
BTN ($25.66)
Hero ($37.27)
BB ($70.06)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is SB 5♦ 6♠ Q♠ Q♣
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.85, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.75, 1 fold

Flop: 5♣ 10:spade: Q♦ ($1.95, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.25, UTG+1 calls $1.25

Turn: 7♠ ($4.45, 2 players)
Hero bets $3.95, UTG+1 calls $3.95

River: 7♥ ($12.35, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $6.70, Hero raises to $18.95, UTG+1 calls $12.25

Final Pot: $50.25
Hero shows
5♦ 6♠ Q♠ Q♣
UTG+1 shows
A♦ A♣ J♠ J♥

Hero wins $48.25 (net +$23.25)

It's nice when people do not believe you :f_biggrin:

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$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players

Stacks:
UTG ($26.01)
Hero ($32.55)
CO ($74.46)
BTN ($29.28)
SB ($25)
BB ($70.18)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 J♠ 3♦ 10:heart: J♥
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.75, CO calls $0.75, 3 folds

Flop: 4♦ 9♥ 6♠ ($1.85, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.25, CO calls $1.25

Turn: Q♠ ($4.35, 2 players)
Hero bets $2.75, CO calls $2.75

River: 10:diamond: ($9.85, 2 players)
Hero bets $7.75, CO folds

Final Pot: $17.60

Hero wins $17.12 (net +$4.62)

Blocker play.


Maybe we could do a sweatsession? I only play PLO5-10 tho (with way too small br, but you started PLO25 so if I don't look for the high variance plays I should be okay?).

Interested ?


Targetme
Joined: 04.05.2009
Elite Grinder

Hey I started playin the lowest stake plo (6max) nl 25 at party poker at first for fun. They werepretty juicy and the game just seems so easy vs fish as you get thenuts so often =]. Any tips?


Targetme
Joined: 04.05.2009
Elite Grinder

i just got 2 oute tw\ice how can you even have ony 2 outs in omaha? xD


I got one outered AI flop yesterday, it sucks, makes your EV do funky stuff.


Hey Jackalof, looking at your graphs I get pretty much the same feeling as about mine: get into green at the beginning, start to do "funny stuff" thinking oh I just won so much, can afford a little gamble. omg I'm b / e again, lets win some and quick! Then crawling back to b / e until the end of the session lol :) Maybe its worth doing more self - monitoring during the session, as it looks you're getting constantly doomswitched at some point.


_Anonymous_ Topic starter
_Anonymous_

Maybe we could do a sweatsession?

Maybe we could, but I don't have microphone, so Skype text chat only :f_p:
I'll add you via Community and we can talk.

Hey I started playin the lowest stake plo (6max) nl 25 at party poker at first for fun. They werepretty juicy and the game just seems so easy vs fish as you get thenuts so often =]. Any tips?

PLO25 at Party was where my journey began. Tons and tons of fishes cuz it's the lowest PLO limit at that site (or at least it used to be). Good strategy is to make them tilt by trash talking and showing bluffs, then tightening up and taking their moniez :f_p: Or being tight aggressive, that works too :f_p: Play your position, open alot of buttons, ???, profit. :f_cool:

Those 1 and 2 outers - get used to it, they're kinda standard. What can tilt the poop out of you is running cards that beat you. I once witnessed guy shoving 55** on xx6 board, no draw, another called with 66**. Turn 5, river 5.... 0.1% equity on flop. Boom monster tilt/depression. I think that player already commited suicide :f_frown:

@Irooz: you said it, panda :f_cool: That dinosaur makes sen----C----e.

Maybe its worth doing more self - monitoring during the session, as it looks you're getting constantly doomswitched at some point.

Hehe, nice observation. I have been reviewing my play for quite a while, and the leak is quite simple - I need time (an hour or so) to get 'into the zone'. Until then I just play bad/passive/predictable. I don't know how to shake off that morning lazyness. Coffee/excercises do not help :f_frown: I start my session and I know I will slump 1BI or more by doing some terrible payoff or smth like that. For example, graph from my yesterday's session: another 'hello, my name is jackalof, and here is my climb off the hole'.

Couple of hands:

$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players

Pre-Flop: ($0.60, 6 players) Hero is SB 8♥ 10:club: 10:heart: 8♣
[CO posts $0.25]
2 folds, CO checks, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, CO calls $0.75

Flop: 3♣ Q♦ 5♠ ($2.25, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, CO calls $1.50

Turn: 4♣ ($5.25, 2 players)
Hero bets $2.25, CO calls $2.25

River: A♠ ($9.75, 2 players)
Hero bets $5.25, CO folds

I am a 3 barrel whore :f_frown:

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$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is UTG 8♥ Q♠ 8♠ Q♥
Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.75, 1 fold, BB calls $0.50

Flop: 4♦ J♥ 10:club: ($2.35, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: 5♠ ($2.35, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, BB calls $1.50

River: A♦ ($6.85, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4.25, BTN folds, BB folds

Blockers ^^


_Anonymous_ Topic starter
_Anonymous_
9BI swing occured yesterday - was +3BI at peak and -6BI at hellhole :f_p:

Also wasted some $Ts in MTTs: busto in PLO MTT before money, busto in $10,5 NLHE HU KO (had a draw which was favourite to win when money went in, nice hand :f_grin: ), finished 64th out of ~700 in $1 Lamborghini MTT for ~$2 (top 27 get ticket to weekly $100K) - guy shoved with 5 outs, obv hit :f_biggrin:

Some hands:

$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($68.71)
Hero ($54.12)
BTN ($25.70)
SB ($33.81)
BB ($25)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 5 players) Hero is CO 8♣ 10:club: A♦ A♥
UTG raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, BB calls $1.25, UTG raises to $6.10, Hero calls $4.60, BB calls $4.60

Flop: 4♥ 2♣ 6♣ ($18.40, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $14, Hero goes all-in $48.02, BB folds, UTG calls $34.02

Turn: 3♥ ($114.44, 2 players, 1 all-in)

River: J♣ ($114.44, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $114.44
UTG shows
8♠ A♣ K♣ K♥
Hero shows
8♣ 10:club: A♦ A♥

UTG wins $112.44 (net +$58.32)

Thats how Supernovas do it :f_biggrin:

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$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
4 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero ($52.65)
BTN ($62.48)
SB ($25)
BB ($46.84)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 4 players) Hero is CO 10:club: J♦ J♠ 7♣
Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: 8♦ 9♦ 10:spade: ($1.60, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1, BB raises to $3.25, Hero calls $2.25

Turn: Q♥ ($8.10, 2 players)
BB bets $5.25, Hero calls $5.25

River: 9♥ ($18.60, 2 players)
BB bets $11.50, Hero calls $11.50

Final Pot: $41.60
Hero shows
10:club: J♦ J♠ 7♣
BB shows
6♣ 10:heart: 5♥ 2♥

Hero wins $40.60 (net +$19.85)

Sorry sir, I do not believe you :f_biggrin:

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$0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($20.39)
CO ($25.35)
BTN ($25)
Hero ($31.82)
BB ($34.67)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 5 players) Hero is SB 7♠ 5♦ 6♠ 7♦
2 folds, BTN raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50

Flop: 4♥ A♣ 3♥ ($2.25, 3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, BTN checks

Turn: 2♠ ($2.25, 3 players)
Hero bets $1.75, BB raises to $7.39, BTN folds, Hero calls $5.64

River: J♥ ($17.03, 2 players)
Hero bets $9.99, BB folds

Final Pot: $27.02

Hero wins $26.18 (net +$8.05)

Why chop the pot with the same hand on turn when i can donk semi-bluff the river :f_cool:


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