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StaticMoth
Joined: 22.05.2009
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Originally posted by vonki
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... this will by far be my biggest volume month. I may even en up having played 100% more this month then I ever did before. :f_love:

Congrats !

Hope to achieve the same myself next month (after 482 previous attempts :tongue: )


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vonki
Joined: 18.03.2008
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so TwiceT and me just recorded part 5 & 6 of Pink Performance.

It's a HEM hand analysis review, and we discussed some pretty interesting hands. There is def some hands about overbetting etc that can be of use to many, and overall feeling very good about the videos. Can't wait to watch them myself. :)

Part 4 is yet to be released aswell, so we have something to look forward to the next weeks!

xoxo :heart:


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MITStudent
Joined: 29.01.2009
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Originally posted by vonki
so TwiceT and me just recorded part 5 & 6 of Pink Performance.

<3


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vonki
Joined: 18.03.2008
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late night rant...

[03:14:01] TwiceT: omg, u are an alien
[03:14:05] TwiceT: u changed so much
[03:14:07] TwiceT: holy shit
[03:14:28] TwiceT: its like transformers, the film
[03:15:13] vonki: i became a sexy pink robot?
[03:17:16] TwiceT: http://www.fuenf-filmfreunde.de/tag/transformers/&docid=GlDQ-1366al_-M&w=500&h=472&ei=j9J_TsbUEY_R4QTI85H2CA&zoom= 1" rel="nofollow ugc" target="_blank"> http://www.google.at/imgres?q=transformers&hl=de&sa=X&biw=1334&bih=748&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=8yA_9yvGIx_FDM:&imgrefurl=http://www.fuenf-filmfreunde.de/tag/transformers/&docid=GlDQ-1366al_-M&w=500&h=472&ei=j9J_TsbUEY_R4QTI85H2CA&zoom=1
[03:17:41] vonki: sexy purple robot will do

Coming from TwiceT, it means alot to me to hear how much he thinks I have changed (improved). I used to be very weak and emotional, and now I feel like quite the opposite. September for sure has been a huge breakthrough for me. I think TwiceT's "rude" post about what a slacker and weakling I am/have been really did alot for me aswell. To anyone out there who thinks he was too rude, maybe so. But he didnt speak as a friend but as a coach, and he told me what I needed to hear and I took absolutely no offense. I mean he was sooo right!

After a long night with 9 hours play and no tilt!! :f_love: I am now signing off. Time to get some well deserved rest before we get up tomorrow. Get Ready Its a New Day! :f_cool:

Lots of love,
vonki :heart:


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Shevtshenko
Joined: 06.12.2009
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9h or play and no tilt?!!??!?!

1st option: you've cracked their random-number-generator's code

2nd option: you were severely sedated while playing

3rd option: you've become a true pkr plr. A TRUE GRINDER.

if i had to guess, it's the 2nd option. :f_p:

grats!


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Shinersen
Joined: 12.07.2009
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Hello miss, i`m happy to see that you`re doing well.

Keep up the good work. _evil:


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vonki
Joined: 18.03.2008
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Well... none of the 3 ;) I had a MTT-day tho :)

But that's usually even more of a tiltinducer to me normally. You play for hours and hours, you run deep in some, bust out, loose some crucial flips and all the "what if"'s. I also played "out of my comfort zone" (higher than I am used to) and had quite some PS pro's on my tables during the night. Liv Boeree was one, though not in the Ladies tourney.

Bottom line is that as TwiceT pointed out to me yesterday "you finally got it now." There is a difference between knowing that only longrun counts, that you need to put in a ton of work and that we should keep our emotions off the table and yada yada yada, and actually believing in it and being able to execute it.

Ofc I still have a ton of work to do and improve on(mindset wise aswell), and will still try to increase my volume further for October. I'm ready to take on the challenge! :f_love:

ty Shinerseb! :heart:


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vonki
Joined: 18.03.2008
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  • Raising the bar

September is coming to an end, I have crossed the 90h I wanted to put in. I'm currently at 104 hours and counting. Still some hours to go in CG to reach 90h there, but there is no doubt in my mind that I will make it. That's why I'm planning ahead, and it's time to start thinking about next month. On a sidenote I have also had 6-7 hours of coaching, and did 13-14 hours of live sweating with others where I didn't play myself.

"Actually i just wanted to say its the first time i think u will make it as poker pro." - TwiceT

I have a huge amount of respect for this guy, and he is a true inspiration to many of us. I can't express how much it means to me to hear these words coming from him! He is a sick player, person and coach overall. Compliments from him don't come easy, so I know it's well deserved.

I assume I will have passed a total of 120 hours when this month ends. That would be an increasement by 100%. Good as it sounds, it's not enough by far. That's why I have decided to increase next months volume even further.

:heart: October :heart:

[ ] 150 hours (mixed MTT/CG)
[ ] Keep improving overall mindset and understanding of variance
[ ] Keep studying and improving my overall knowledge and understanding about poker
[ ] Create and maintain a new daily routine
[ ] 1 day/week day off

I think 1 day off per week is enough. Even if I go out with friends on a friday/saturday evening, nothing stops me from putting in a session or two before I go out. Sundays will be MTT-nights sometimes and I usually feel drained after those so I think Monday would be a good day to have free.

Anyway. No need to fill out with more rant. I'm ready for October. :f_love:

xoxo :heart:


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Just too much damn awesomness going on around this here blog :f_cool:


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Good luck and good grinding :heart:


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Hey you're motivation is really inspiring, I have the talent but sometimes really struggle to do mammoth grind sessions.

150 hours is really sick :)

I added you to the community tool btw :)


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another baller, just woman in making? :f_biggrin:
anyways vonki when are u hitting NL100? :)

oh and general poker question.

what do u think is best.
play micros at soft donkey site(ipoker/ongame) and move to stars when i hit NL50+.
or just stay at donkey site and print moniez there all the way to the top?
or go to stars right away?


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StaticMoth
Joined: 22.05.2009
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Originally posted by TilTmuch
oh and general poker question.

what do u think is best.
play micros at soft donkey site(ipoker/ongame) and move to stars when i hit NL50+.
or just stay at donkey site and print moniez there all the way to the top?
or go to stars right away?

The other way around imo ... Doesn't matter where you play, micro players are donkeys everywhere ... only difference = rake

Stars has better/lower rake than soft smaller sites ...

But, the higher you climb, the less drastic the rake impact will be and the main sites like Stars have more solid regs/smaller sites will have more donkeys even at higher limits (true, a lot less traffic though).

But yeah, in general, imo the other way around yeah ...

Grind out the micros@Stars and then ravage the higher limits on softer sites.


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Joined: 18.03.2008
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thank you all :f_love:

@ Tiltmuch: It'll be a while :) I can't really tell you what to do, it's all up to you and your preferances. There are so many decisive factors and it all depends on what you value the highest.

Quality of software, how high the rake is and what not. I mean your winrate probably won't be that more drastic on say NL2 just because you play on a different site where there are more bad players. The thing is aswell that, its not about "printing money" on microstakes. Improving is the only thing that counts on microstakes imo. The faster u improve, the faster you can move up and print real money.

I chose the site with the best software (FTP), and where I had rakeback and promotions to keep me happy and motivated. I have a hard time playing somewhere where the software bothers me.


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Joined: 18.03.2008
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Jared Tandler says in his video that things that we do when we're tilting (I'm going to define tilt as anything but A-game, simply because when we're playing "B-game", we're doing something different than we normally would. Otherwise it wouldnt be B-game) are our weaknesses.

Things that thinking normally protects us from doing (or if you will, not doing). Things that aren't yet done by "instinct".

Take light 3-bets for example. If you don't do them instincitvly, you have to think about spots and opponents to use them for. So when we stop thinking, we no longer find these spots, and thus don't make them.

It makes alot of sense to me. We all know we sorta stop thinking when we go on autopilot or when we tilt. And if there is something we've recently learnt and arent supersure about yet, we'll stop doing it.

So I'm going to 1) Find out what things I do different when i "tilt" and 2) Start "automating" more of my decisions. Nr 2 simply because when something is done by default (just like raising PP's preflop are, or folding them vs most 3bets), you don't need much thought for it. Thought requires energy, and we only have so much. If I can automate more of my decisions, I can withstand longer sessions before getting tired.

So that's one thing I'll be working on in October =) Just thought i'd share.

xoxo :heart:


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thazar
Joined: 14.09.2009
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Originally posted by vonki
Jared Tandler says in his video that things that we do when we're tilting (I'm going to define tilt as anything but A-game, simply because when we're playing "B-game", we're doing something different than we normally would. Otherwise it wouldnt be B-game) are our weaknesses.

Things that thinking normally protects us from doing (or if you will, not doing). Things that aren't yet done by "instinct".

Take light 3-bets for example. If you don't do them instincitvly, you have to think about spots and opponents to use them for. So when we stop thinking, we no longer find these spots, and thus don't make them.

It makes alot of sense to me. We all know we sorta stop thinking when we go on autopilot or when we tilt. And if there is something we've recently learnt and arent supersure about yet, we'll stop doing it.

So I'm going to 1) Find out what things I do different when i "tilt" and 2) Start "automating" more of my decisions. Nr 2 simply because when something is done by default (just like raising PP's preflop are, or folding them vs most 3bets), you don't need much thought for it. Thought requires energy, and we only have so much. If I can automate more of my decisions, I can withstand longer sessions before getting tired.

So that's one thing I'll be working on in October =) Just thought i'd share.

xoxo :heart:

Great post

That's the third time I read about automating decisions in a positive way. Gerv had a really good post about it in his blog recently. and Leatherass also has a paragraph or chapter on it in "Treat your poker as a business".
Something like most decisions do not require any thought as they are standard and we often try to analyse every situation too deep and as such are almost leveling ourselves. If we can take rightfully class a situation as standard and act accordingly I think it can be massively +ev.

on the other hand it almost goes against what we tell most beginners about poker been so situational and to analyse each spot independently. I think however it is necessary to do that at first to be able to be able to standardise those situations and have almost a preset reaction to them.

;)


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Joined: 18.03.2008
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Well I thought about it a bit aswell. Like, automating decisions would turn into ABC/autopilot play. But I really don't think it does.

I mean, say you wanna isolate a limper. When you first started doing it, you thought way more about why to do it, when to do it, against who to do it, how to proceed postflop etc. By now at least I don't have to think about all those factors when I do it. They're already in the back of my head.

So it's not so much about becoming ABC, or doing something on autopilot. All of the decisions will still be situationbased, we just don't think actively about all factors imo. We might think of some, but not in depth. I guess :)


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"automating" not "autopilot"

hm.... a new and interesting poker concept to me. Thanks vonki. I'll think about it.


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What happens is that you memorize the situation/pattern, so when you see it you don't have to think about what to do in depth, you already know.

It's like putting a complete new poker player to play 5 tables at once, and also give him a starting hands chart... he won't be able to fallow the chart in time, he will be sit out at a lot of tables. But if he memorizes the shc before starting, then practice it in game while playing, in short time the shc will be an automated part of his game. Just that we talk here as in overall game, not just shc for preflop - we memorize situations, concepts and then with a bit of practice it becomes part of our automated game .

It's not about playing with your mind wondering off, you can still play like this but probably won't be +EV game. It's about freeing up mental space - you aleardy know how to deal with most situations so you don't have to think about them deeply, so you keep your mental energy for those new or difficult spots, or for improving parts of your game.

This is how I see it. I could write more, but I think everybody can get the point =)


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Joined: 18.03.2008
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Yea I think most people get it but I still think it's interesting to dicuss.

Jared speaks in the video about moving the stuff to "procedural memory". And once we do, we free up space for new things to think about, until we can move that to procedural memory aswell.

I'll write some of the notes I took from the video:

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More automated decisions = more endurance.

A tough decision requires thought. Thought requires energy. A standard preflop raise requires none.

Thinking requires energy. You only have so much.

More volume = more mistakes.

In procedural memory, you have knowledge that is solid, and you have weaknesses. To see procedural memory in action, analyze your play at times when you lose the ability to think. For example when on tilt, being nervous, unfocused, end of session, when ur distracted.

The mistakes when u make when f.x unfocused represent your greatest weknesses. Be it a bad calldown, preflop aggression in the wrong spot etc.

It's critical to improve these weaknesses because 1) They're obvious. 2) It frees up mental energy and mental thought that was previously protecting you from doing stupid shit.

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That's as far as I have gotten in the first video, have yet 15 mins of the video to study with notes. :) Then ofc, off to the second video =)


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