[Fermé] Analyse de 20 mains

Message original de sgosgo
Bonjour. Voici qqs mains que j'ai jouées récemment, et pour lesquelles je ne suis pas sur du tout d'avoir fait les bons choix.

0,05/0,10 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grab'em by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8♥, 8♦
2 folds, MP1 raises, 2 folds, CO calls, BU calls, SB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (8,40 SB) 2♦, 3♣, 6♠ (4 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls, CO calls, BU calls.

Turn: (6,20 BB) 3♠ (4 players)
Hero bets, MP1 raises, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, MP1 calls.

River: (12,20 BB) 3♦ (2 players)
Hero bets, MP1 raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 16,20 BB

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows [ 8h, 8d ] a full house, Threes full of Eights
MP1 shows [ As, Ah ] a full house, Threes full of Aces
MP1 wins $1.57 with a full house, Threes full of Aces.

Ai-je bien joué ? (check au lieu de bet à la river peut-être ?)
Comment lire MP1 ?

le donk sur le flop est ok, car tu pense que MP1 relancera et t'aidera ainsi à protéger sa main. Sur le turn, je te conseille de lever le pied aprés ton bet. La relance de MP1 alors qu'il avait suivi sur le flop laisse présumer qu'il a une excellente main. et check sur la river

0,05/0,10 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grab'em by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is SB with K♣, A♣
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises, 6 folds, Hero 3-bets, BB folds, UTG+1 caps, Hero calls.

Flop: (9,00 SB) A♦, 9♠, T♦ (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 caps, Hero calls.

Turn: (8,50 BB) 8♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls.

River: (10,50 BB) Q♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12,50 BB

Results follow (highlight to see):
UTG+1 shows [ Ts, Th ] three of a kind, Tens
Hero shows [ Kc, Ac ] a pair of Aces
UTG+1 wins $1.20 with three of a kind, Tens.

Que devais-je faire au turn ?

je pense que tu peux exceptionellement trouver un fold sur le turn ici, je pense que tu es battu, et la seule main que tu bats et qui serait susceptibles de te faire un cap sur le flop serait une main à tirage qui fait une relance pour la carte gratuite. Malheureusement pour toi, la carte du turn réalise les deux tirages. personellement je vois un fold, ou un bet/fold turn. Je vais essayer de voir ce qu'en disent les analystes et je te préciserai alors le meilleur move.

0,05/0,10 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grab'em by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with T♥, T♦
UTG+1 raises, Hero 3-bets, MP1 caps, 6 folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (13,40 SB) 7♠, 9♥, J♣ (3 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (8,20 BB) 5♥ (3 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

River: (11,20 BB) 8♣ (3 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, MP1 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 15,20 BB

Results follow (highlight to see):
UTG+1 shows [ Js, As ] a pair of Jacks
Hero shows [ Th, Td ] a straight Seven to Jack
Hero wins $1.47 with a straight, Seven to Jack.

Ai-je bien joué ?

Sur le flop, tu as certes la cote pour ton tirage gutshot, mais le danger d'une sur-relance de MP1 est grand, puisqu'il a cappé préflop. Je pense que tu dois te coucher sur le flop ici, aussi douloureux que ce soit. Si tu avais été en fin de parole, tu aurais pu suivre, mais là...

0,05/0,10 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grab'em by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9♠, 4♦
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, 4 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: (5,40 SB) T♠, J♦, 4♣ (5 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls, Hero folds.

Turn: (4,20 BB) K♦ (3 players)
UTG bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

River: (7,20 BB) 4♥ (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, MP2 calls, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 9,20 BB

Results follow (highlight to see):
MP2 shows [ Qs, 8s ] a pair of Fours
UTG+1 shows [ Qh, Kc ] two pairs, Kings and Fours
UTG+1 wins $0.92 with two pairs, Kings and Fours.

Dois-je vraiment fold au flop (après avoir pu voir le flop gratuitement, cf BB) ?

Fold flop, c'est bon, ne regarde pas les cartes qui tombent aprés

0,05/0,10 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grab'em by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7♣, Q♣
3 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: (5,00 SB) 8♥, Q♥, K♣ (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks.

Turn: (2,50 BB) 3♣ (5 players)
Hero bets, 2 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds.

River: (4,50 BB) 4♥ (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8,50 BB

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows [ 7c, Qc ] a pair of Queens
MP2 shows [ 7d, Qd ] a pair of Queens
MP2 wins $0.42 with a pair of Queens.
Hero wins $0.43 with a pair of Queens.

Ai-je bien joué ?

Bet sur le flop, bet turn, check river, je pense

0,05/0,10 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grab'em by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is CO with A♣, A♥
5 folds, MP3 calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (6,40 SB) 6♣, 9♠, 8♠ (3 players)
BB bets, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (4,70 BB) 3♦ (3 players)
BB bets, MP3 folds, Hero calls.

River: (6,70 BB) Q♦ (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls.

Final Pot: 14,70 BB

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows [ Ac, Ah ] a pair of Aces
BB shows [ 8h, 8d ] three of a kind, Eights
BB wins $1.42 with three of a kind, Eights.

Devais-je raise au flop voire au turn (pour protéger ma main et surtout maximiser le pot, même si ici en final je le perd...) ?

Raise flop. N'attendez pas la river pour relancer, c'est une énorme erreur : 1 vous offrez des cartes gratuites, 2. les tirages ne payent plus sur la river !!

0,05/0,10 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grab'em by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is BB with K♠, A♠. CO posts a blind of $0,05.
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 raises, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, 3 folds, Hero 3-bets, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (11,40 SB) Q♥, 6♣, K♦ (3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP3 folds.

Turn: (6,70 BB) Q♦ (2 players)
Hero bets, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: 7,70 BB

Faut-il essayer un check-raise, et quand ?

Non, pas de check-raise quand c'est toi qui as l'initiative, ta ligne est bonne.

0,05/0,10 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grab'em by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 5♦, 5♠
Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO raises, 2 folds, BB calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (8,40 SB) 6♦, 7♦, 9♣ (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP2 folds, CO calls, BB calls.

Turn: (5,70 BB) 6♠ (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, CO folds, BB calls.

River: (7,70 BB) J♣ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Final Pot: 9,70 BB

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows [ 5d, 5s ] two pairs, Sixes and Fives
BB shows [ Ts, Th ] two pairs, Tens and Sixes
BB wins $0.97 with two pairs, Tens and Sixes.

où me suis-je fourvoyé ?

avec autant d'adversaires en Full ring, tu joues une pocket de 5 uniquement pour la set value, donc fold flop

0,05/0,10 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grab'em by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is SB with K♥, Q♠
4 folds, CO calls, BU calls, Hero raises, BB folds, CO calls, BU calls.

Flop: (7,00 SB) 7♠, 9♠, A♥ (3 players)
Hero bets, CO calls, BU folds.

Turn: (4,50 BB) 6♦ (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls.

River: (8,50 BB) 8♦ (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 11,50 BB

Faut-il checker a partir du flop ?

Bet flop ok, c'est un continuation bet. Sur le turn, tu as, suivant l'adversaire, le choix entre bet/fold et check/fold. En tout cas, pas de calldown

0,05/0,10 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grab'em by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 8♣, 8♥
UTG+1 folds, Hero raises, MP1 folds, MP2 3-bets, MP3 folds, CO calls, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (10,40 SB) 6♦, A♣, 7♣ (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, CO raises, Hero folds, MP2 calls.

Turn: (7,20 BB) 8♦ (2 players)
MP2 bets, CO raises, MP2 calls.

River: (11,20 BB) 4♣ (2 players)
MP2 checks, CO bets, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 13,20 BB

Results follow (highlight to see):
CO shows [ Ad, Ks ] a pair of Aces
MP2 shows [ As, Qh ] a pair of Aces
CO wins $1.27 with a pair of Aces with King kicker.

Fallait-il fold au flop ?

oui, sans l'ombre d'un doute.

0,05/0,10 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (3 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grab'em by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is BU with J♦, J♥
Hero raises, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: (5,00 SB) 7♠, J♣, K♥ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (2,50 BB) 5♠ (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

River: (4,50 BB) 4♦ (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB calls.

Final Pot: 8,50 BB

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows [ Jd, Jh ] three of a kind, Jacks
SB shows [ Qs, Td ] high card King
Hero wins $0.85 with three of a kind, Jacks.

ai-je bien optimisé le pot ?

Non, tu aurais du miser sur le flop, car un check en ayant eu l'initiative est peu recommandé dans cette situation. Pense bien que plus le pot est gros sur les tours suivants, plus les adversaires tendent á suivre les plus grosses mises du turn et de la river. Et relance sur le turn. n'attends pas la river pour prendre de la value, je répete que les tirages ne te payent alors plus.

0,05/0,10 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grab'em by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is CO with A♣, A♠. Hero posts a blind of $0,05.
2 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, Hero raises, BU folds, SB calls, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (8,00 SB) 8♥, 6♠, A♦ (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets, MP2 folds, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (5,50 BB) 2♠ (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero calls, SB calls.

River: (8,50 BB) K♠ (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB folds, BB calls.

Final Pot: 10,50 BB

Results follow (highlight to see):
BB shows [ 6c, 6d ] three of a kind, Sixes
Hero shows [ Ac, As ] three of a kind, Aces
Hero wins $1 with three of a kind, Aces.

Ai-je bien optimisé ce pot (fallait-il raise au turn ?)

Raise turn, tant pis pour SB, d'un autre coté, tu te serais sans doute lancé dans une raising war avec BB, qui aurait été nettement plus rentable (surtout si SB était sur un tirage).

0,05/0,10 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grab'em by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q♦, Q♣
2 folds, Hero raises, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, 3 folds.

Flop: (7,40 SB) 4♠, 2♦, 2♥ (3 players)
Hero bets, MP3 raises, CO calls, Hero 3-bets, MP3 caps, CO calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (9,70 BB) 8♠ (3 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, CO calls, Hero calls.

River: (12,70 BB) K♠ (3 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, CO folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14,70 BB

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows [ Qd, Qc ] two pairs, Queens and Twos
MP3 shows [ 3c, 3s ] two pairs, Threes and Twos
Hero wins $1.42 with two pairs, Queens and Twos.

Ai-je bien joué ?
Encore une main avec 2 paires, dont 1 paire sur le tableau....

bet sur le turn, pour protéger ta main contre CO, qui a l'air d'être sur un tirage.

0,05/0,10 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grab'em by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is CO with A♥, K♥
2 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero raises, BU folds, SB calls, BB folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (9,00 SB) 4♦, Q♦, A♦ (4 players)
SB checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets, Hero raises, 2 folds, MP3 3-bets, Hero caps, MP3 calls.

Turn: (8,50 BB) J♦ (2 players)
MP3 bets, Hero calls.

River: (10,50 BB) Q♠ (2 players)
MP3 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12,50 BB

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows [ Ah, Kh ] two pairs, Aces and Queens
MP3 shows [ Td, 8d ] a flush, Ace high
MP3 wins $1.20 with a flush, Ace high.

j'ai un doute sur turn/river...

Fold turn

0,05/0,10 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grab'em by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K♦, K♣. CO posts a blind of $0,05.
2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, SB calls, BB folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (10,00 SB) J♣, 9♣, K♠ (4 players)
SB checks, MP1 bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (7,00 BB) T♠ (4 players)
SB checks, MP1 bets, MP2 raises, Hero calls, SB folds, MP1 calls.

River: (13,00 BB) 9♥ (3 players)
MP1 checks, MP2 bets, Hero raises, MP1 calls, MP2 3-bets, Hero caps, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 23,00 BB

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows [ Kd, Kc ] a full house, Kings full of Nines
MP2 shows [ 2d, 9s ] three of a kind, Nines
Hero wins $2.20 with a full house, Kings full of Nines.

ai-je bien optimisé l'argent ?

Raise flop, le tableau est extremement menacant, tu ne veux pas seulement optimiser, tu veux également protéger. Call turn ok, tu as 10 outs (mais j'espere que tu es conscient que tu es sans doute battu ici)

0,05/0,10 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grab'em by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9♦, A♦
2 folds, MP2 calls, 2 folds, BU calls, SB folds, Hero checks.

Flop: (3,40 SB) 3♦, 5♣, 8♦ (3 players)
Hero bets, MP2 raises, BU calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (4,70 BB) 7♠ (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, BU calls, Hero calls.

River: (7,70 BB) Q♥ (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, BU bets, Hero folds, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 9,70 BB

Results follow (highlight to see):
BU shows [ 8h, 8s ] three of a kind, Eights
MP2 shows [ 5h, 4h ] a pair of Fives
BU wins $0.97 with three of a kind, Eights.

Ai-je bien calculé mes outs/cote ?

oui. Ne vous foulez pas, en FL pour une seule mise, un tirage couleur est pour ainsi dire toujours jouable.

0,05/0,10 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grab'em by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is BB with K♥, 6♥
3 folds, MP1 raises, MP2 calls, 2 folds, BU calls, SB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (8,40 SB) 5♥, 7♠, Q♥ (4 players)
Hero bets, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, BU raises, Hero 3-bets, MP2 folds, BU caps, Hero calls.

Turn: (8,70 BB) Q♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, BU bets, Hero calls.

River: (10,70 BB) T♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, BU bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12,70 BB

Results follow (highlight to see):
BU shows [ 7d, 7h ] a full house, Sevens full of Queens
Hero shows [ Kh, 6h ] a pair of Queens
BU wins $1.22 with a full house, Sevens full of Queens.

Pas de donk sur le flop, et encore moins de trois bet hors position. Ensuite : check/call turn, check/fold river. Je ne vois vraiment pas pourquoi tu suis sur la river. TU n'as rien (et ne me dis pas : si j'ai une paire de Dame, sinon je vais m'énerver )

0,05/0,10 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grab'em by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q♠, K♥. UTG+2 posts a blind of $0,05.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 checks, 4 folds, BU calls, SB calls, Hero raises, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, BU calls, SB calls.

Flop: (9,00 SB) Q♦, 8♥, K♦ (4 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, UTG+1 folds, BU calls, SB 3-bets, Hero caps, BU calls, SB calls.

Turn: (10,50 BB) J♣ (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, BU calls.

River: (13,50 BB) 4♥ (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, BU folds.

Final Pot: 15,50 BB

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows [ Qs, Kh ] two pairs, Kings and Queens
SB shows [ 8c, 8s ] three of a kind, Eights
SB wins $1.50 with three of a kind, Eights.

Là je pense que j'aurais plutot fait un call du 3-bet sur le flop, suivi d'un raise turn, suivant la carte du turn. Car là, sur le flop, BU va suivre de toute facon, et tu lui procures une bonne cote sur le turn, en alimentant le pot sur le flop.

0,05/0,10 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grab'em by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is BU with T♦, K♦
UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 raises, CO folds, Hero calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (10,40 SB) A♠, Q♥, 9♠ (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls, BB folds, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (7,20 BB) 3♥ (4 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.

River: (11,20 BB) Q♠ (4 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP2 bets, MP3 calls, Hero folds, UTG+2 calls.

Final Pot: 14,20 BB

Results follow (highlight to see):
MP3 shows [ Ac, Kh ] two pairs, Aces and Queens
UTG+2 shows [ 3c, 3d ] a full house, Threes full of Queens
MP2 shows [ Qc, 8d ] three of a kind, Queens
UTG+2 wins $1.37 with a full house, Threes full of Queens.

Ok, vu la taille du pot et le nombre d'adversaires qui te procurent un bonne cote, le call est ok. Fold river évidemment.

0,05/0,10 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grab'em by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with Q♥, J♥
2 folds, Hero calls, MP1 folds, MP2 raises, 4 folds, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (6,40 SB) Q♦, 4♦, 7♣ (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP2 raises, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5,20 BB) 7♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6,20 BB

Là, je pense que tu pouvais faire un calldown.

Désolé de poster autant de mains, mais les commentaires sur les 10 mains postées hier m'ont bien aidés, donc je récidive.... Merci d'avance.

Pas de problème, essaye quand meme de faire de plus petit paquets, car là c'est un peu compliqué pour répondre en citant ton post à rallonge

Volà, mes réponses ne sont peut etre pas toutes optimales, Olivier va y jeter un oeil également et me repnrendra la ou il n'est pas d'accord

Bon, pour la deuxième main, le call turn est ok.