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[Chiuso] Probably already asked 100 times but... Is poker online rigged?

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tuktukbkk
Iscritto: 21.03.2007
PokerStrategist

(sorry for my question in english but I dont control the Italian yet :)

Dear Italian community,

The more I play the more I have this feeling on tournaments that the software behind most of the poker providers (im playing currently on pokerstars under nickname tuktukbkk) have an algorithm that simplifies the gaem. Certain hands show a little bit more frequently than in live poker - I have seen impossible hands winning with cards given on the turn and river, the guy with more chips 99% of the times will take the pot, etc. I actually start playing considering this and I have been more sucessful than before... so my question to you is: Is poker online rigged? And if thats the case should you adapt your game to take that in consideration?

With all your answers I will try to make a summary with the top 5 reasons to believe this is true or not true! Tell me your story!


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No it's not :D


innaig86
Iscritto: 06.03.2009
Oldschool Grinder

Live poker is rigged. :f_mad:


Are u even been a dealer or you have tried to deal? U can see the same things on live poker. ;)


hi man we have seen 1K posts like this one

the italian economy is rigged :D war is rigged world is rigged but not poker :D

:D :D:D:D

think AA wins 85% of times not 100% so ....sometimes you can win, sometime not :D that's poker

if you play 5 hands by day it's possible that your AA will burn in hell for 5 times but if you play 10k hand by month you will earn money.......

sorry for my english

have a nice day


valentik72
Iscritto: 02.10.2006
Oldschool Grinder

First compliment because you are very beautiful, i see your photo in the your profile.

Second compliment for your blog and for your persolized referent in pstrategy

I think that the poker as live as on line is not rigged but it is complex joke, and like as life it's very hard but with application and passion can do good results nd profits

Best regards and one big kiss :D

Sorry for my english


Galliani
Iscritto: 26.10.2007
PokerStrategist

tuktukbkk is rigged!

:) If you have PT you can see it's all regular and inside the stats!


L'originale di tuktukbkk(sorry for my question in english but I dont control the Italian yet :)

Dear Italian community,

The more I play the more I have this feeling on tournaments that the software behind most of the poker providers (im playing currently on pokerstars under nickname tuktukbkk) have an algorithm that simplifies the gaem. Certain hands show a little bit more frequently than in live poker - I have seen impossible hands winning with cards given on the turn and river, the guy with more chips 99% of the times will take the pot, etc. I actually start playing considering this and I have been more sucessful than before... so my question to you is: Is poker online rigged? And if thats the case should you adapt your game to take that in consideration?

With all your answers I will try to make a summary with the top 5 reasons to believe this is true or not true! Tell me your story!

Hi there.

So you're saying something like you adjusted your game to the "riggedness" and you're doing bigger profits than before? Any example?

A few impressions about what you said, imo:
- Certain hands showing a little bit more frequently > It's all about percentages on an huge sample size, softweres like PT or HEM tell you how many times you've been dealt every combination, from AA to 72o, and that "little bit more frequently" doesn't make a lot of sense, if not proven by any sort of document/proof.
- Winning cards on turn and river > The more hands you play, the bigger chance you have to get a bad beat on you, that happens a lot, and it's about percentages aswell.
- Guy with more chips wins > I've heard people saying the exact contrary of what you're saying here, so i guess its just another personal feeling.

It's online poker rigged? No!
Why? Cause PRs get profit anyway by Rake, and it would be pointless (and i guess impossible too) for them to control winning players/losing players winnings and "force" them to keep playing.

:f_grin:.


Dodazzo
Iscritto: 28.07.2008
Elite Grinder

L'originale di Shujee

L'originale di tuktukbkk(sorry for my question in english but I dont control the Italian yet :)

Dear Italian community,

The more I play the more I have this feeling on tournaments that the software behind most of the poker providers (im playing currently on pokerstars under nickname tuktukbkk) have an algorithm that simplifies the gaem. Certain hands show a little bit more frequently than in live poker - I have seen impossible hands winning with cards given on the turn and river, the guy with more chips 99% of the times will take the pot, etc. I actually start playing considering this and I have been more sucessful than before... so my question to you is: Is poker online rigged? And if thats the case should you adapt your game to take that in consideration?

With all your answers I will try to make a summary with the top 5 reasons to believe this is true or not true! Tell me your story!

Hi there.

So you're saying something like you adjusted your game to the "riggedness" and you're doing bigger profits than before? Any example?

A few impressions about what you said, imo:
- Certain hands showing a little bit more frequently > It's all about percentages on an huge sample size, softweres like PT or HEM tell you how many times you've been dealt every combination, from AA to 72o, and that "little bit more frequently" doesn't make a lot of sense, if not proven by any sort of document/proof.
- Winning cards on turn and river > The more hands you play, the bigger chance you have to get a bad beat on you, that happens a lot, and it's about percentages aswell.
- Guy with more chips wins > I've heard people saying the exact contrary of what you're saying here, so i guess its just another personal feeling.

It's online poker rigged? No!
Why? Cause PRs get profit anyway by Rake, and it would be pointless (and i guess impossible too) for them to control winning players/losing players winnings and "force" them to keep playing.

:f_grin:.

Shujee is a friend of mine :f_p:


tuktukbkk Autore della discussione
tuktukbkk
Iscritto: 21.03.2007
PokerStrategist

Here is a classic example of what Im talking about... that just happened and they kick me out in 9th place!

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PokerStars Game #31866344933: Tournament #188750914, $20+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (600/1200) - 2009/08/20 20:43:12 ET
Table '188750914 8' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: mountrath 1 (33399 in chips)
Seat 2: cyprususa (9167 in chips)
Seat 3: tuktukbkk (8065 in chips)
Seat 4: z 0 0 t s (91393 in chips)
Seat 5: blkchpj (23520 in chips)
Seat 6: slim99slim (27725 in chips)
Seat 7: drx975 (27928 in chips)
Seat 8: PeppeSwe (8658 in chips)
Seat 9: perkele99 (40145 in chips)
mountrath 1: posts the ante 125
cyprususa: posts the ante 125
tuktukbkk : posts the ante 125
z 0 0 t s: posts the ante 125
blkchpj: posts the ante 125
slim99slim: posts the ante 125
drx975: posts the ante 125
PeppeSwe: posts the ante 125
perkele99: posts the ante 125
cyprususa: posts small blind 600
tuktukbkk: posts big blind 1200
HOLE CARDS
Dealt to freepokerm [9s 9c]
z 0 0 t s: folds
blkchpj: folds
slim99slim: folds
drx975: folds
PeppeSwe: folds
perkele99: folds
mountrath 1: raises 32074 to 33274 and is all-in
cyprususa: folds
tuktukbkk: calls 6740 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (25334) returned to mountrath 1
FLOP [9d Tc Qs]
TURN [9d Tc Qs] [Js]
RIVER [9d Tc Qs Js] [2h]
SHOW DOWN
tuktukbkk: shows [9s 9c] (three of a kind, Nines)
mountrath 1: shows [8d Ah] (a straight, Eight to Queen)
mountrath 1 collected 17605 from pot
SUMMARY
Total pot 17605 | Rake 0
Board [9d Tc Qs Js 2h]
Seat 1: mountrath 1 (button) showed [8d Ah] and won (17605) with a straight, Eight to Queen
Seat 2: cyprususa (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: tuktukbkk (big blind) showed [9s 9c] and lost with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 4: z 0 0 t s folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: blkchpj folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: slim99slim folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: drx975 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: PeppeSwe folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: perkele99 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Galliani
Iscritto: 26.10.2007
PokerStrategist

We all got hundreds of them in our database ... dont waste time, it's just bad luck, variance and .... what else? ....

:)


bellavec
Iscritto: 29.01.2008
PokerStrategist

so my question to you is: Is poker online rigged? And if thats the case should you adapt your game to take that in consideration?

dude, don't take it wrong..

i have tons of question like these, and even if i hate them i usually still leave them in the forum hoping that someone will understand poker room are not rigged, reading logical answers from older members or trying to think deeply about that..

you shold have understood the point from shujee's one, so i'm closing here the conversation, cause it's not even interesting for new users cause unfortunately in italy a small percentage of people speak english.

Cheers

p.s. a personal piece of advice: the hand you posted is not even a bad beat, if you get mad cause of these things, you should try and grind something like 2500-3000 FR SnGs, after that you'll tell me if you changed your mind or not ;)