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DanielMSant
Membro desde: 29.01.2010

Cabei de terminar uma sessão que não foi muito boa... Vou postar as mãos que fizeram essa sessão ser negativa..... gostaria que comentassem sobre a forma que joguei, oq poderia melhorar......

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$1:///////;UTG2$0,91:99/17/4/1,2/35/0/100/17;MP1$2,36:127/23/20/-/12/31/-/50;CO$0,95:97/19/8/1,3/31/25/75/60;[/tg]
0,01/0,02 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy.com Elephant 0.105 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q♦, Q♣
UTG1 folds, UTG2 calls $0,02, MP1 raises to $0,10, 2 folds, CO calls $0,10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0,40, UTG2 folds, MP1 raises to $1,00, CO folds, Hero raises to $1,00 (All-In).

Flop: ($2,13) A♠, 7♣, 5♥
Turn: ($2,13) 3♦
River: ($2,13) 8♥ (2 players)

Final Pot: $2,13

Results follow (highlight to see):
MP1 shows a pair of aces (Ah Jh)
Hero shows (Qd Qc)

MP1 wins with a pair of aces (Ah Jh)

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Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$0,97:///////;MP3$4,65:56/30/14/1,2/40/29/100/25;[/tg]
0,01/0,02 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy.com Elephant 0.105 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BB with A♠, K♦
2 folds, MP3 raises to $0,08, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0,24, MP3 raises to $4,65 (All-In), Hero raises to $0,97 (All-In).

Flop: ($5,63) J♠, T♦, T♣
Turn: ($5,63) J♥
River: ($5,63) Q♠ (2 players)

Final Pot: $5,63

Results follow (highlight to see):
MP3 shows a full-house, jacks full of tens (Kh Jd)
Hero shows (As Kd)

MP3 wins with a full-house, jacks full of tens (Kh Jd)

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Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$0,92:///////;BU$7,37:25/76/16/2,6/12/0/0/100;[/tg]
0,01/0,02 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy.com Elephant 0.105 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9♥, 9♦
3 folds, Hero raises to $0,06, 3 folds, BU calls $0,06, 2 folds.

Flop: ($0,15) Q♥, 9♠, 6♣ (2 players)
Hero bets $0,1, BU calls $0,10.

Turn: ($0,35) 7♣ (2 players)
Hero bets $0,2, BU raises to $0,92, Hero raises to $0,76 (All-In).

River: ($2,03) J♦ (2 players)

Final Pot: $2,03

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows (9h 9d)
BU shows a straight, queen high (Ts 8s)

BU wins with a straight, queen high (Ts 8s)

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Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$0,91:///////;BB$4,85:116/12/9/1,3/40/18/25/50;MP2$3,1:155/18/8/3,2/23/28/100/33;[/tg]
0,01/0,02 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy.com Elephant 0.105 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q♠, Q♦
MP2 calls $0,02, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0,08, BB calls $0,06, MP2 calls $0,06.

Flop: ($0,24) A♥, 5♠, 3♥ (3 players)
Hero bets $0,12, BB calls $0,12, MP2 calls $0,12.

Turn: ($0,60) 4♥ (3 players)
Hero bets $0,3, BB calls $0,30, MP2 raises to $0,60, Hero folds, BB calls $0,30.

River: ($2,10) 7♥ (2 players)
BB checks, MP2 bets $1,57, BB folds.

Final Pot: $3,67


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PASTERTEK
Membro desde: 17.12.2008

Boas,

As primeiras 3 maos que postas jogaste bem!:)
A quarta e ultima jogada é bastante weak pos flop. Um board com 1 overcard ao teu poket pair...flush draw e straight possibility (embora improvavel) e vs 3 adversarios....devia ter ck/fold Flop Turn e River.

Espero poder ter ajudado.

Cumprimentos Pokerianos

Pastertek


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PASTERTEK
Membro desde: 17.12.2008

Só mais uma nota que me parece fundamental para evoluires bem e solido...nao utilizes estatisticas até pelo menos nl 25 ou mais.
É fundamental optimizarmos as nossas skills sem as stats para depois estarmos bem solidos de know para utilizarmos certas skills inconscientemente, ao mesmo tempo que analisamos as stats:)


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DanielMSant Autor do tópico
DanielMSant
Membro desde: 29.01.2010

Vlw Pastertek!


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LuigiBarboza
Membro desde: 29.12.2010

QQ std, AK std, 99 std, QQ não cbeta esse turn de jeito nenhum não tem como estares a frente de nada esse 4 completa tudo é check/fold.


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danielvfs
Membro desde: 26.01.2011

A única mão contestável é a última, todas as outras foram bem jogadas e apenas a variância está a afetá-lo.

Este turn completa muitos draws, preferiria ir de check/fold.

Boa sorte nas mesas! :sdrink


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Karbonkid
Membro desde: 22.10.2010

Original de PASTERTEK
Boas,

As primeiras 3 maos que postas jogaste bem!:)
A quarta e ultima jogada é bastante weak pos flop. Um board com 1 overcard ao teu poket pair...flush draw e straight possibility (embora improvavel) e vs 3 adversarios....devia ter ck/fold Flop Turn e River.

Espero poder ter ajudado.

Cumprimentos Pokerianos

Pastertek

+1
Concordo com o Pastertek, só que nessa mão estão novamente só com 6 jogadores na mesa.

PS- não ponhas várias mãos no mesmo post, pois o avaliador de mão vai dar-te nas orelhas.. :)
É mais facil para analizar se fizeres um post para cada mão.

PS.1- já deves tar a pensar "porra mas este gajo é mesmo chato"


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DanielMSant Autor do tópico
DanielMSant
Membro desde: 29.01.2010

ahhaha...pensei sim!!! _biggrin:


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Original de DanielMSant
Cabei de terminar uma sessão que não foi muito boa... Vou postar as mãos que fizeram essa sessão ser negativa..... gostaria que comentassem sobre a forma que joguei, oq poderia melhorar......

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$1:///////;UTG2$0,91:99/17/4/1,2/35/0/100/17;MP1$2,36:127/23/20/-/12/31/-/50;CO$0,95:97/19/8/1,3/31/25/75/60;[/tg]
0,01/0,02 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy.com Elephant 0.105 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q♦, Q♣
UTG1 folds, UTG2 calls $0,02, MP1 raises to $0,10, 2 folds, CO calls $0,10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0,40, UTG2 folds, MP1 raises to $1,00, CO folds, Hero raises to $1,00 (All-In).

Flop: ($2,13) A♠, 7♣, 5♥
Turn: ($2,13) 3♦
River: ($2,13) 8♥ (2 players)

Final Pot: $2,13

Results follow (highlight to see):
MP1 shows a pair of aces (Ah Jh)
Hero shows (Qd Qc)

MP1 wins with a pair of aces (Ah Jh)

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Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$0,97:///////;MP3$4,65:56/30/14/1,2/40/29/100/25;[/tg]
0,01/0,02 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy.com Elephant 0.105 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BB with A♠, K♦
2 folds, MP3 raises to $0,08, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0,24, MP3 raises to $4,65 (All-In), Hero raises to $0,97 (All-In).

Flop: ($5,63) J♠, T♦, T♣
Turn: ($5,63) J♥
River: ($5,63) Q♠ (2 players)

Final Pot: $5,63

Results follow (highlight to see):
MP3 shows a full-house, jacks full of tens (Kh Jd)
Hero shows (As Kd)

MP3 wins with a full-house, jacks full of tens (Kh Jd)

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$0,92:///////;BU$7,37:25/76/16/2,6/12/0/0/100;[/tg]
0,01/0,02 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy.com Elephant 0.105 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9♥, 9♦
3 folds, Hero raises to $0,06, 3 folds, BU calls $0,06, 2 folds.

Flop: ($0,15) Q♥, 9♠, 6♣ (2 players)
Hero bets $0,1, BU calls $0,10.

Turn: ($0,35) 7♣ (2 players)
Hero bets $0,2, BU raises to $0,92, Hero raises to $0,76 (All-In).

River: ($2,03) J♦ (2 players)

Final Pot: $2,03

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows (9h 9d)
BU shows a straight, queen high (Ts 8s)

BU wins with a straight, queen high (Ts 8s)

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Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$0,91:///////;BB$4,85:116/12/9/1,3/40/18/25/50;MP2$3,1:155/18/8/3,2/23/28/100/33;[/tg]
0,01/0,02 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy.com Elephant 0.105 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q♠, Q♦
MP2 calls $0,02, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0,08, BB calls $0,06, MP2 calls $0,06.

Flop: ($0,24) A♥, 5♠, 3♥ (3 players)
Hero bets $0,12, BB calls $0,12, MP2 calls $0,12.

Turn: ($0,60) 4♥ (3 players)
Hero bets $0,3, BB calls $0,30, MP2 raises to $0,60, Hero folds, BB calls $0,30.

River: ($2,10) 7♥ (2 players)
BB checks, MP2 bets $1,57, BB folds.

Final Pot: $3,67

1°,2° e 3° Ok!

4° Com A na mesa,fora de posição e contra dois vilões, acho que temos que passar para o check/fold nesta situação.

e muito menos temos que apostar nesse turn, com dois calls a probabilidade de pelo menos um desses dois vilões ter o A é grande, por isso no Turn consolida ainda mais o check/fold

Abraços.


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