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AAcantiflasAA
Membro desde: 04.01.2011
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vilão sem grande info.
71h- 31/26
BB fold to SB steal 0(2)

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Hero (SB): $52.36 (104.7 bb)
BB: $50 (100 bb)
UTG: $247.57 (495.1 bb)
MP: $46.34 (92.7 bb)
CO: $54.30 (108.6 bb)
BTN: $107.50 (215 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 K
4 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3) 7 2 A (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: ($3) 6 (2 players)
Hero


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AAcantiflasAA
Membro desde: 04.01.2011
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Vilão "Reg/fraco".
OR MP- 27%
cbet flop OOP- 66
cbet turn OOP- 67

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SB: $54.22 (108.4 bb)
BB: $85.43 (170.9 bb)
UTG: $84.25 (168.5 bb)
MP: $54.56 (109.1 bb)
CO: $50 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $50.25 (100.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K J
UTG folds, MP raises to $1.50, CO folds, Hero calls $1.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.75) K 3 9 (2 players)
MP bets $2.75, Hero calls $2.75

Turn: ($9.25) 9 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero


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AAcantiflasAA
Membro desde: 04.01.2011
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Vilão fish, sem grande info.

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SB: $55.26 (110.5 bb)
BB: $64.55 (129.1 bb)
Hero (UTG): $58.01 (116 bb)
MP: $49.75 (99.5 bb)
CO: $51.85 (103.7 bb)
BTN: $115.83 (231.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J A
Hero raises to $1.50, 4 folds, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3.25) J 7 8 (2 players)
BB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($6.25) T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero


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AAcantiflasAA
Membro desde: 04.01.2011
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vilão sem info.

Qual o range dele aqui? 7x, talvez pp underpairs, Ax, não vejo muito mais, deve cbetar todo o lixo numa board seca e que o favorece tanto.

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SB: $47.44 (94.9 bb)
Hero (BB): $57.32 (114.6 bb)
UTG: $52.79 (105.6 bb)
MP: $27.67 (55.3 bb)
CO: $92.55 (185.1 bb)
BTN: $43.30 (86.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T 8
3 folds, BTN raises to $1, SB folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.25) 8 7 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($2.25) 7 (2 players)
Hero


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AAcantiflasAA
Membro desde: 04.01.2011
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Sem info do vilão.
Aqui a minha duvida é, vilão não tem flushes (ou não deve ter), portanto o range dele deve ser TT, JJ(talvez), KQs, betar pequeno para tentar extrair de mãos tipo TcTx ou KxQc, ou isto é muito otimista? ou xbh para induzir algum bluf desses pp (será que blufa?) ou deixa lo acertar paus e tentar extrair no river?

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SB: $108.35 (216.7 bb)
BB: $145.71 (291.4 bb)
UTG: $54.09 (108.2 bb)
MP: $126.39 (252.8 bb)
CO: $65.40 (130.8 bb)
Hero (BTN): $56.14 (112.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A
3 folds, Hero raises to $1, SB raises to $3.50, BB folds, Hero raises to $9, SB calls $5.50

Flop: ($18.50) 4 7 K (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $9, SB calls $9

Turn: ($36.50) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero


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AAcantiflasAA
Membro desde: 04.01.2011
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vilão fish sem grande info.

É possível que tenha Kx no range, deve ter AA, mas também é possível que cbet Qx no flop que agora de x/c?! Muito otimista? ou ate mesmo algum draw se betarmos pequeno.

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SB: $125.11 (250.2 bb)
BB: $58.51 (117 bb)
UTG: $50 (100 bb)
MP: $193.01 (386 bb)
Hero (CO): $50.25 (100.5 bb)
BTN: $51.18 (102.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A Q
UTG raises to $1.50, MP folds, Hero calls $1.50, 3 folds

Flop: ($3.75) Q 5 K (2 players)
UTG bets $2.38, Hero calls $2.38

Turn: ($8.51) K (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero


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velsmakende
Membro desde: 01.01.2014
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Vilão reg a tender para o nitty.
OPR CO: 22%
F3B: 54%
4BETRANGE CO: 1,3%

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Hero (SB): $58.38 (116.8 bb)
BB: $50 (100 bb)
UTG: $119.96 (239.9 bb)
MP: $50 (100 bb)
CO: $71.35 (142.7 bb)
BTN: $50 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T T
2 folds, CO raises to $1.25, BTN folds, Hero raises to $4.50, BB folds, CO calls $3.25

Flop: ($9.50) 7 3 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $5, CO calls $5

Turn: ($19.50) Q (2 players)
Hero??

Confesso que nem sei se este spot é close. A dúvida surge mesmo por vilão ser nit. Hero pode betar este turn por thin value?


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AAcantiflasAA
Membro desde: 04.01.2011
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vilão 200h 21/15

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SB: $50 (100 bb)
BB: $26 (52 bb)
UTG: $69.63 (139.3 bb)
MP: $57.41 (114.8 bb)
Hero (CO): $50.08 (100.2 bb)
BTN: $50 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8 8
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, BTN folds, SB calls $1, BB folds

Flop: ($3) A 3 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($3) 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero


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AAcantiflasAA
Membro desde: 04.01.2011
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Sem info do vilão,

Será que eles dão demasiado xbh aqui com Ax?

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SB: $100.48 (201 bb)
Hero (BB): $55.29 (110.6 bb)
UTG: $53.64 (107.3 bb)
MP: $26.36 (52.7 bb)
CO: $54.53 (109.1 bb)
BTN: $64.69 (129.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K J
3 folds, BTN raises to $1.50, SB folds, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($3.25) J 8 A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($3.25) 2 (2 players)
Hero


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velsmakende
Membro desde: 01.01.2014
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Recreativo 28/19
OPR BTN: 39%
F3B BTN: 12%

Flop Fold to cbet: 37%

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SB: $54.49 (109 bb)
Hero (BB): $51.25 (102.5 bb)
UTG: $64.96 (129.9 bb)
MP: $114.49 (229 bb)
CO: $136.87 (273.7 bb)
BTN: $59.45 (118.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A K
3 folds, BTN raises to $1.50, SB folds, Hero raises to $5, BTN calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.25) 2 4 K (2 players)
Hero bets $5.18, BTN calls $5.18

Turn: ($20.61) J (2 players)
Hero??

Primeira dúvida: com que frequência podemos betar este flop com AK? E com que combos de AK?
E turn podemos betar por thin value?


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AAcantiflasAA
Membro desde: 04.01.2011
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vilão 26/21
call open BBvsMP 7%

Vilão está definitivamente a arrastar para SD, o range dele é muito Ax e talvez algo tipo 33, a nossa bet no turn representa muito pouca coisa (se não nada), será que temos value contra mãos tipo AQ/AJ?

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SB: $49.48 (99 bb)
BB: $50 (100 bb)
UTG: $68.35 (136.7 bb)
Hero (MP): $50 (100 bb)
CO: $50.75 (101.5 bb)
BTN: $44.85 (89.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K A
UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 3 folds, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3.25) 4 8 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($3.25) 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero


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AAcantiflasAA
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vilão fish sem mais info.

Será que eles jogam assim muitas vezes Ax? Ainda não estou muito familiarizado com os imensos limps em zoom. Parece me que draws e 9x vai betar então não sei muito bem do que extraímos.

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SB: $61.92 (123.8 bb)
BB: $51.60 (103.2 bb)
UTG: $75.54 (151.1 bb)
MP: $23.75 (47.5 bb)
CO: $86.92 (173.8 bb)
Hero (BTN): $76.06 (152.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K K
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, CO folds, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, MP calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.75) 8 A 9 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($4.75) 9 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero


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AAcantiflasAA
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sem info do vilão.

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $101.23 (202.5 bb)
BB: $90.44 (180.9 bb)
UTG: $50.07 (100.1 bb)
MP: $50 (100 bb)
CO: $82.86 (165.7 bb)
Hero (BTN): $50 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A Q
UTG folds, MP raises to $1.50, CO folds, Hero calls $1.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.75) 4 A 8 (2 players)
MP bets $2, Hero calls $2

Turn: ($7.75) 7 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero


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velsmakende
Membro desde: 01.01.2014
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Reg 22/17
CC COvsMP: 8% (em boa amostra)

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SB: $52.73 (105.5 bb)
BB: $147.30 (294.6 bb)
UTG: $77.84 (155.7 bb)
Hero (MP): $64 (128 bb)
CO: $50 (100 bb)
BTN: $112.93 (225.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q Q
UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.50, CO calls $1.50, 3 folds

Flop: ($3.75) 6 9 J (2 players)
Hero bets $2.39, CO calls $2.39

Turn: ($8.53) 5 (2 players)
Hero??

Sem blocker :spade: temos thin valuebet?


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velsmakende
Membro desde: 01.01.2014
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Reg 24/20
OPR CO: 28%
F3B: 57%

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Hero (SB): $51.75 (103.5 bb)
BB: $50 (100 bb)
UTG: $65.17 (130.3 bb)
MP: $50 (100 bb)
CO: $58.43 (116.9 bb)
BTN: $57.48 (115 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T A
2 folds, CO raises to $1, BTN folds, Hero raises to $4, BB folds, CO calls $3

Flop: ($8.50) K J 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($8.50) A (2 players)
Hero??

Flop c/c é ok com gutshot + BD nutflush?


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velsmakende
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Reg 23/19 (pouca info)

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SB: $52.58 (105.2 bb)
Hero (BB): $50 (100 bb)
UTG: $52 (104 bb)
MP: $52.25 (104.5 bb)
CO: $56.33 (112.7 bb)
BTN: $52.39 (104.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
2 folds, CO raises to $1.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4.50, CO calls $3.25

Flop: ($9.25) 8 J A (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($9.25) A (2 players)
Hero??

Nunca sei o que fazer neste spot. Fico sempre com a sensação que vilão deu cbh com Ax.
Como jogar este spots no vácuo?
E com info?
Já agora, que stats do vilão te "puxam" a dar bet nestes turns?


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double2
Membro desde: 04.11.2008
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No treino de dia 11 de Maio vamos falar de bluffcatch no river. Coloquem aqui mãos exemplo em que Hero segura um bluffcatcher no river e enfrenta um bet ou um raise. Não interessa se é 3bet pot, limped pot ou o que seja.


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lmrelvas
Membro desde: 17.12.2008
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Mesa regular. 51 mãos do vilão que até á data me pareceu algo passivo, taguei o como recretaivo. 29/20 Na altura so vi estatistica do river , tinha 28% de agressividade. Ele estava a defender 40% da BB, por isso o seu range é largo. Até á data não tinha foldado a nenhuma cbet em 2 ocasiões. Na altura pensei que não devia ter muitos floats no range, e que entre esses floats o J é uma boa carta para acertar, De resto não o vejo a value betar pior e o seu range é Jx+ ou air. A minha dúvida também é no turn, o ck é a melhor linha e deixar lo betar pior e bluffs e se o fazemos temos de dar call river? Ou o bet por valor no turn é standart?

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Hero (SB): $50 (100 bb)
BB: $53.21 (106.4 bb)
MP: $57.94 (115.9 bb)
CO: $61.79 (123.6 bb)
BTN: $53.89 (107.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K T
3 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3) 5 7 T (2 players)
Hero bets $2, BB calls $2

Turn: ($7) J (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $5.01, Hero calls $5.01

River: ($17.02) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $11, Hero folds

Results:

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$17.02 pot ($0.77 rake)
Final Board: 5 7 T J 2
Hero mucked K T and lost (-$8.51 net)
BB mucked and won $16.25 ($7.74 net)


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PCesar
Membro desde: 18.02.2014
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Boas Pessoal, esta é a primeira vez que coloco uma mão para que possam comentar, portanto, não levem a mal se falhar alguma coisa. Gostaria que me pudessem dizer se a mão foi bem jogada, ou se a deveria ter jogado de outra forma...

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SB: $5 (100 bb)
BB: $2.67 (53.4 bb)
UTG: $6.26 (125.2 bb)
Hero (MP): $6.15 (123 bb)
CO: $3.43 (68.6 bb)
BTN: $4.14 (82.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A A
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.20, 3 folds, BB calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.42) 7 Q 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.30, BB calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.02) T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.85, BB calls $0.85

River: ($2.72) T (2 players)
BB bets $1.32 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.32

Results:

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$5.36 pot ($0.22 rake)
Final Board: 7 Q 8 T T
BB showed 9 T and won $5.14 ($2.47 net)
Hero showed A A and lost (-$2.67 net)

A DB normalmente representa muita força, mas contra um jogador recreativo de stack quebrada e com tendências Calling Station, não consegui largar...


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PCesar
Membro desde: 18.02.2014
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:why:


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