Hallo,
da inzwischen doch ein paar Leute zu diesem Thema dazugekommen sind wer ich einfach mal hier posten.
Vornweg aber eine Einschränkung. Was ich hier poste ist meine Meinung, und das was ich für mich entwickelt habe. Da sind unter Garantie genügend fehler drin. Ich bin mir auch nicht sicher ob meine Spielweise besser ist als die tightere von braeumecke. Im Grunde versuche ich mir gerade zu erarbeiten wo ich tighter werden muss.
Ich hab mal folgende Untersuchung gemacht.
Ich hab alle Tische eines Tage genommen.
Ich hab alle aussortiert bei denen ich nicht mindestens 5ter geworden bin.
Ich hab meine Chipstände rausgesucht jeweils wenn sich die Anzahl der Leute am Tisch auf 5,4,3 und 2 Spieler reduziert hat + die Blindstufe.
Praktisch hab ich also erfasst wie gross in BB mein Stack war sobald wir nur noch 5 oder weniger leute am Tisch waren. Dabei kam raus das ich (bei etwa 40 Tischen):
Im Schnitt 28,1 BB hatte wenn einer als 6ter rausgeflogen ist.
5 Spieler 28,1BB
4 Spieler 28,5BB
3 Spieler 29,8BB
2 Spieler 43,7BB
Meine Stacks waren also immer recht groß
Außerdem hab ich mal rausgesucht was meine jeweils letzten Hände waren.
1ter
Seat 2: xy (button) (small blind) showed [5h Ah] and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 8: murphyslavvv (big blind) showed [9h 9d] and won (8758) with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 5: murphyslavvv (button) (small blind) showed [Qc Kd] and won (5550) with two pair, Queens and Sevens
Seat 6: xy (big blind) showed [8h Ah] and lost with two pair, Eights and Sevens
Seat 3: murphyslavvv (big blind) showed [Qh Ah] and won (5610) with two pair, Aces and Sixes
Seat 7: xy (button) (small blind) showed [8h Ks] and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 2: murphyslavvv (big blind) showed [Ah 6c] and won (5896) with two pair, Aces and Sixes
Seat 8: xy (button) (small blind) showed [Td Kd] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 5: xy (big blind) showed [Kh Js] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 9: murphyslavvv (button) (small blind) showed [5h Qs] and won (7950) with two pair, Queens and Fives
Seat 3: xy (big blind) showed [4h 4d] and lost with two pair, Fives and Fours
Seat 7: murphyslavvv (button) (small blind) showed [Ah Qh] and won (5980) with two pair, Aces and Fives
Seat 2: murphyslavvv (button) (small blind) showed [Qd 8d] and won (12700) with a pair of Queens
Seat 8: xy (big blind) showed [4d 7s] and lost with a pair of Sevens
Seat 5: murphyslavvv (button) (small blind) showed [8h Kd] and won (5300) with a pair of Kings
Seat 9: xy (big blind) showed [2h 2d] and lost with a pair of Deuces
2ter
Seat 1: xy (button) (small blind) showed [Jd Kc] and won (12360) with a pair of Jacks
Seat 2: murphyslavvv (big blind) showed [Jh 3h] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 4: murphyslavvv (big blind) showed [Kc 6h] and lost with two pair, Kings and Sixes
Seat 7: xy(button) (small blind) showed [9h 8h] and won (9006) with a flush, King high
Seat 3: murphyslavvv (button) (small blind) showed [Ah 4s] and won (9600) with two pair, Eights and Fours
Seat 4: xy (big blind) showed [Jh Qc] and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 5: murphyslavvv (button) (small blind) showed [Jc Ac] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 7: xy (big blind) showed [7h Ad] and won (4560) with a pair of Sevens
Seat 4: xy (button) (small blind) showed [7h 5h] and won (8978) with a pair of Fives
Seat 7: murphyslavvv (big blind) showed [8c 9d] and lost with high card King
Seat 4: murphyslavvv (button) (small blind) showed [Ac Qd] and lost with two pair, Queens and Nines
Seat 9: xy (big blind) showed [Kc Ah] and won (10644) with two pair, Kings and Nines
3ter
Seat 5: xy (big blind) showed [Ac 7s] and won (10620) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 9: murphyslavvv (button) showed [Ts Kc] and lost with a flush, King high
Seat 3: xy (big blind) showed [Ad Ah] and won (2801) with two pair, Aces and Jacks
Seat 4: murphyslavvv (button) showed [Kh 4d] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 3: xy (big blind) showed [Ad Ah] and won (2801) with two pair, Aces and Jacks
Seat 4: murphyslavvv (button) showed [Kh 4d] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 3: xy (button) showed [As 5s] and won (5860) with a pair of Aces
Seat 7: murphyslavvv (big blind) showed [Ks 9d] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 3: xy (small blind) showed [8d Ad] and won (5270) with a pair of Aces
Seat 5: murphyslavvv (big blind) showed [6d 5c] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 2: murphyslavvv (button) showed [4c Ac] and lost with a pair of Fours
Seat 6: xy (small blind) showed [5s 5c] and won (4169) with a pair of Fives
4ter
Seat 1: murphyslavvv (small blind) showed [Ah 5s] and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 5: xy (button) showed [9d 4h] and won (3890) with a straight, Three to Seven
Seat 3: xy (button) showed [5c Qs] and won (2245) with a full house, Jacks full of Queens
Seat 7: murphyslavvv (big blind) showed [Td Ts] and lost with a full house, Jacks full of Tens
Seat 2: murphyslavvv showed [Js Jd] and lost with a full house, Jacks full of Kings
Seat 5: xy showed [9h 9d] and lost with two pair, Kings and Nines
Seat 6: yx (button) showed [Kc Ah] and won (7295) with a full house, Kings full of Aces
Seat 3: murphyslavvv (small blind) showed [9c Qs] and lost with two pair, Nines and Fives
Seat 4: xy (big blind) showed [As 5s] and won (3210) with three of a kind, Fives
Seat 3: murphyslavvv (button) showed [7d Ad] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 8: xy (big blind) showed [8d 8s] and won (3790) with a pair of Eights
Seat 1: xy (big blind) showed [6s 8d] and won (40) with a straight, Four to Eight
Seat 3: murphyslavvv showed [Kc Kd] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 9: xy (small blind) showed [8c 8h] and won (8273) with a straight, Four to Eight
Seat 2: murphyslavvv (big blind) showed [Th Ad] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 6: xy (button) showed [Kd Kh] and won (5780) with a pair of Kings
Seat 8: murphyslavvv (small blind) showed [Kh 6s] and lost with two pair, Kings and Tens
Seat 9: xy (big blind) showed [Kc Qh] and won (4110) with two pair, Kings and
5ter
Seat 4: xy (big blind) showed [2s 2d] and won (498) with three of a kind, Deuces
Seat 5: murphyslavvv showed [6s Kh] and lost with high card King
Seat 1: xy (small blind) showed [7h Ah] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 5: xy (big blind) showed [4d Qh] and won (684) with two pair, Kings and Fours
Seat 8: murphyslavvv mucked [2c 2s]
Seat 1: murphyslavvv (big blind) showed [8c Kd] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 5: xy (button) showed [Kc Kh] and won (3528) with a pair of Kings
Seat 2: murphyslavvv (big blind) showed [5d 5h] and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 6: xy showed [Ad Td] and won (2870) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 1: murphyslavvv (button) showed [Ad 4h] and lost with a pair of Fours
Seat 7: xy (big blind) showed [Jd Qd] and won (1575) with a pair of Jacks
Seat 3: xy (button) showed [9c 9h] and won (6130) with a pair of Nines
Seat 6: murphyslavvv (big blind) showed [Ah 5h] and lost with high card Ace
Zusammenfassung:
Ich denke wenn du eine vergleichbare Untersuchung bei deinen Daten machst wirst du auf zwei unterscheide stoßen.
1. Deine Stacks sind wahrscheinlich etwas kleiner. Du hast also geduldiger als ich gespielt und wurdest dadurch weiter runter geblindet.
2. Deine Finalen Hände waren bestimmt „stärker“ als meine.
Der Stichprobenumfang ist bisher noch recht gering, aber so in etwa sollte es reichen um sich ein Bild zu machen. Ob meine oder deine Spielweise besser ist bin ich mir auch noch lange nicht sicher. Ich werde auf jeden Fall versuchen die Untersuchung weiter zu führen.
Besonders interessiert mich wo ich tighter werden muss um nicht so oft zu bubblen. Ich will zwar weiterhin aggressiv stealen und restealen, aber vielleicht z.B. kleine PP rausnehmen.
Aufgefallen ist mir hier schon mal wie oft ich bei den 4ten und 5ten Plätzen In und um die Blinds agiert habe. Bei den 5ten hab ich z.B. 3 mal (von 6) den big blind verteidigt mit K8o, 55, A5s. Da hab ich wohl meistens gegen den BU Reraise AI gespielt. Das muss ja nicht schlecht sein. Die Fälle wo der BU foldet fehlen ja alle. Auch die Calls die ich dann gewonnen habe fehlen. Das kann also durchaus eine sehr profitable Strategie sein, geht aber auch manchmal schief. Das muss ich mir noch genauer anschauen.