Hola a todos, soy Jorge de Lima, Perú y abro este blog principalmente de OMAHA8. He jugado NL10 y omaha8 en ipoker y NL en partypoker en niveles micros. Ahora empezare a jugar en pokerstars mayormente pl8 y si va bien todo plo. Así que empezaré jugando desde el nivel mas bajo y conforme junte el bank necesario (supongo que 40 cajas seria lo ideal) subiré de nivel. Con un amigo compramos el HM2 y desde ahora llevaré con mayor orden los datos de mi juego y los publicare conforme vaya jugando. Ahora los objetivos de este mes:
- Jugar un promedio de ocho horas diarias, sin tomar demasiada importancia al volumen da manos.
- Obtener el bank para pl10 (400 dolares)
- Estudiar pl8 cinco horas por lo menos a la semana
- Publicar al menos una vez por semana en este blog.
Hola ! Bienvenido a PokerStrategy.com y especialmente a esta sección de blogs
Estaré muy pendiente de este blog, porque el omaha es una asignatura que tengo pendiente desde hace tiempo
Saludos !
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Que bueno saber que hay peruanos jugando omahi h/l
Bueno yo ya llevo jugando esta vertiente del poker por mas de 5años, solo juego en ps.
He ganado algunos torneos regulares y actualmente me puedes ubicar en Pl25 omaha h/l
Nick diegolio.
Saludos!!!
por ahí lo he visto diego
creo que puede hacerlo mejor
a estudiar macho si quiere sobrevivir en cash
Bueno esta primera semana se jugo a medo tiempo jugando al rededor de 13k manos. Creo que jugando de acuerdo a los objetivos facil se podria hacer unas 4000 manos diarias y hacer mas guita $$ ojala todo salga bien para subir esta semana a pl5
Bueno esta primera semana se gano poco pero se avanzo pa los proximos niveles.
Bank inicial: 80 dolares
Bank actual: 142 dolares
La semana pasada se obtuvo el bank necesario para jugar pl5 (200 dolares) y desde el sabado empece jugando, comenzando con varios badbets y harta varianza y muchos all in con decir que en una sesion de 800 manos hice cerca de 70 vpp. Ahora a gamblear pl5 y jugar plo que tb se ve muy interesante y con hartos fishes. Dejo algunas manos
a ver si dejan sus comentarios.
bank inicial: 80 dolares
bank actual: 221 dolares
1ra mano que voy all in en pl5 y asi me reciben
PokerStars Hand #87953268063: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2012/10/20 13:24:23 ET
Table 'Alphard VII' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: charzir ($12.41 in chips)
Seat 3: atlasttt ($9.34 in chips)
Seat 4: Neilc999 ($5.08 in chips)
Seat 5: MAJORIVE ($5.46 in chips)
Seat 6: Julio888 ($1.15 in chips)
Neilc999: posts small blind $0.02
MAJORIVE: posts big blind $0.05
HOLE CARDS
Dealt to MAJORIVE [9c Ks Ts Kd]
Julio888: calls $0.05
charzir: folds
atlasttt: folds
Neilc999: calls $0.03
MAJORIVE: checks
FLOP [7h Qd Qc]
Neilc999: checks
MAJORIVE: bets $0.11
Julio888: folds
Neilc999: calls $0.11
TURN [7h Qd Qc] [Kh]
Neilc999: checks
MAJORIVE: bets $0.25
Neilc999: calls $0.25
RIVER [7h Qd Qc Kh] [As]
Neilc999: bets $0.50
MAJORIVE: raises $1.83 to $2.33
Neilc999: raises $1.83 to $4.16
MAJORIVE: raises $0.89 to $5.05 and is all-in
Neilc999: calls $0.51 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($0.38) returned to MAJORIVE
SHOW DOWN
MAJORIVE: shows [9c Ks Ts Kd] (HI: a full house, Kings full of Queens)
Neilc999: shows [Qs Qh 9d 2h] (HI: four of a kind, Queens)
Neilc999 collected $9.79 from pot
No low hand qualified
SUMMARY
Total pot $10.21 | Rake $0.42
Board [7h Qd Qc Kh As]
Seat 1: charzir folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: atlasttt (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Neilc999 (small blind) showed [Qs Qh 9d 2h] and won ($9.79) with HI: four of a kind, Queens
Seat 5: MAJORIVE (big blind) showed [9c Ks Ts Kd] and lost with HI: a full house, Kings full of Queens
Seat 6: Julio888 folded on the Flop
2da mano me confie al pensar como tenia low y proyecto de color.
PokerStars Hand #88018438602: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2012/10/21 17:13:39 ET
Table 'Leonisis VIII' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: lskt ($6.88 in chips)
Seat 2: ~Sigish~ ($13.11 in chips)
Seat 3: Vigro26 ($8.01 in chips)
Seat 4: chaokuru ($8.70 in chips)
Seat 5: MAJORIVE ($14.02 in chips)
MAJORIVE: posts small blind $0.02
lskt: posts big blind $0.05
HOLE CARDS
Dealt to MAJORIVE [5d 2d 3h Ah]
~Sigish~: raises $0.12 to $0.17
Vigro26: calls $0.17
chaokuru: folds
MAJORIVE: calls $0.15
lskt: folds
FLOP [Th 8d 4d]
MAJORIVE: checks
~Sigish~: bets $0.54
Vigro26: folds
MAJORIVE: calls $0.54
TURN [Th 8d 4d] [7s]
MAJORIVE: checks
~Sigish~: bets $1.57
MAJORIVE: raises $4.71 to $6.28
~Sigish~: raises $6.12 to $12.40 and is all-in
MAJORIVE: calls $6.12
RIVER [Th 8d 4d 7s] [8s]
SHOW DOWN
MAJORIVE: shows [5d 2d 3h Ah] (HI: a pair of Eights; LO: 8,7,4,2,A)
~Sigish~: shows [2h 8c 4s Ac] (HI: a full house, Eights full of Fours; LO: 8,7,4,2,A)
~Sigish~ collected $12.72 from pot
MAJORIVE collected $6.36 from pot
~Sigish~ collected $6.36 from pot
SUMMARY
Total pot $26.44 | Rake $1
Board [Th 8d 4d 7s 8s]
Seat 1: lskt (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: ~Sigish~ showed [2h 8c 4s Ac] and won ($19.08) with HI: a full house, Eights full of Fours; LO: 8,7,4,2,A
Seat 3: Vigro26 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: chaokuru (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: MAJORIVE (small blind) showed [5d 2d 3h Ah] and won ($6.36) with HI: a pair of Eights; LO: 8,7,4,2,A
La 3ra mano es contra un player 29/15/10 que me 3beteo y el flop fuimos all in porque imagine que podia tener set de aces o un low malo y asi fue pero el turn y river estuvieran en contra mia. Creo que a pesar de todo estuvo bien jugada la mano??
okerStars Hand #88017944269: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2012/10/21 17:05:09 ET
Table 'Betria III' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: feferrit03 ($2.70 in chips)
Seat 2: MAJORIVE ($5.07 in chips)
Seat 3: mylocote ($3.44 in chips)
Seat 4: mirvladiv ($11.13 in chips)
Seat 5: Rozilio ($4.20 in chips)
Seat 6: Vigro26 ($8.82 in chips)
Vigro26: posts small blind $0.02
feferrit03: posts big blind $0.05
HOLE CARDS
Dealt to MAJORIVE [6h 3c Ad Jd]
MAJORIVE: raises $0.12 to $0.17
mylocote: folds
mirvladiv: folds
Rozilio: raises $0.41 to $0.58
Vigro26: folds
feferrit03: folds
MAJORIVE: calls $0.41
FLOP [As 7c 4d]
MAJORIVE: bets $0.94
Rozilio: raises $2.68 to $3.62 and is all-in
MAJORIVE: calls $2.68
TURN [As 7c 4d] [3h]
RIVER [As 7c 4d 3h] [6c]
SHOW DOWN
MAJORIVE: shows [6h 3c Ad Jd] (HI: two pair, Aces and Sixes; LO: 7,6,4,3,A)
Rozilio: shows [2c Ah 7h 9c] (HI: two pair, Aces and Sevens; LO: 6,4,3,2,A)
Rozilio collected $4.06 from pot
Rozilio collected $4.06 from pot
SUMMARY
Total pot $8.47 | Rake $0.35
Board [As 7c 4d 3h 6c]
Seat 1: feferrit03 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: MAJORIVE showed [6h 3c Ad Jd] and lost with HI: two pair, Aces and Sixes; LO: 7,6,4,3,A
Seat 3: mylocote folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: mirvladiv folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Rozilio (button) showed [2c Ah 7h 9c] and won ($8.12) with HI: two pair, Aces and Sevens; LO: 6,4,3,2,A
Seat 6: Vigro26 (small blind) folded before Flop
Esta mano es contra A1141 siempre lo veo ganando en pl5 pero sus numeros son 50/17/6.7 le gusta pagar pozos grandes en el pre flop sobre todo teniendo Hi como aqui, a pesar de yo tb tener aces y buenos conectores para el hi en el flop tenia 41% de equit.
PokerStars Hand #87967806202: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2012/10/20 18:08:50 ET
Table 'Walkure III' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: charzir ($24.11 in chips)
Seat 2: pinyo5 ($12.77 in chips)
Seat 3: MAJORIVE ($4.11 in chips)
Seat 4: papadootz ($4.13 in chips)
Seat 6: A1141 ($29.63 in chips)
pinyo5: posts small blind $0.02
MAJORIVE: posts big blind $0.05
ripperofJack: sits out
HOLE CARDS
Dealt to MAJORIVE [As Ts Jc Ac]
papadootz: calls $0.05
A1141: calls $0.05
charzir: raises $0.22 to $0.27
pinyo5: folds
MAJORIVE: raises $0.66 to $0.93
papadootz: folds
A1141: calls $0.88
charzir: calls $0.66
FLOP [Th Jh 6c]
MAJORIVE: bets $2.74
A1141: raises $8.22 to $10.96
charzir: folds
MAJORIVE: calls $0.44 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($7.78) returned to A1141
TURN [Th Jh 6c] [Tc]
RIVER [Th Jh 6c Tc] [6d]
SHOW DOWN
MAJORIVE: shows [As Ts Jc Ac] (HI: a full house, Tens full of Jacks)
A1141: shows [Js 7s Ah Qh] (HI: two pair, Jacks and Tens)
MAJORIVE collected $8.84 from pot
No low hand qualified
SUMMARY
Total pot $9.22 | Rake $0.38
Board [Th Jh 6c Tc 6d]
Seat 1: charzir (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: pinyo5 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: MAJORIVE (big blind) showed [As Ts Jc Ac] and won ($8.84) with HI: a full house, Tens full of Jacks
Seat 4: papadootz folded before Flop
Seat 6: A1141 showed [Js 7s Ah Qh] and lost with HI: two pair, Jacks and Tens
esta mano la jugue contra dos donk uno era sigish. si asi fuera siempre, que me toque buenas manos y paguen todos
PokerStars Hand #88016935614: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2012/10/21 16:46:12 ET
Table 'Leonisis VIII' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Neilc999 ($5.35 in chips)
Seat 2: ~Sigish~ ($7.02 in chips)
Seat 3: ARSA_HAB ($3.88 in chips)
Seat 4: chaokuru ($8.71 in chips)
Seat 5: MAJORIVE ($5.41 in chips)
Seat 6: charzir ($15.27 in chips)
MAJORIVE: posts small blind $0.02
charzir: posts big blind $0.05
HOLE CARDS
Dealt to MAJORIVE [2s 2d 5c 3h]
Neilc999: folds
~Sigish~: raises $0.12 to $0.17
ARSA_HAB: calls $0.17
chaokuru: folds
MAJORIVE: calls $0.15
charzir: folds
FLOP [8c 2c Js]
MAJORIVE: checks
~Sigish~: bets $0.54
ARSA_HAB: calls $0.54
MAJORIVE: raises $2.16 to $2.70
~Sigish~: calls $2.16
ARSA_HAB: calls $2.16
TURN [8c 2c Js] [2h]
MAJORIVE: bets $2.54 and is all-in
~Sigish~: calls $2.54
ARSA_HAB: calls $1.01 and is all-in
RIVER [8c 2c Js 2h] [Th]
SHOW DOWN
MAJORIVE: shows [2s 2d 5c 3h] (HI: four of a kind, Deuces)
~Sigish~: shows [4h Ts Ah As] (HI: two pair, Aces and Deuces)
MAJORIVE collected $2.94 from side pot
ARSA_HAB: shows [Jc 6c 6h 8d] (HI: two pair, Jacks and Eights)
MAJORIVE collected $11.20 from main pot
No low hand qualified
SUMMARY
Total pot $14.75 Main pot $11.20. Side pot $2.94. | Rake $0.61
Board [8c 2c Js 2h Th]
Seat 1: Neilc999 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: ~Sigish~ showed [4h Ts Ah As] and lost with HI: two pair, Aces and Deuces
Seat 3: ARSA_HAB showed [Jc 6c 6h 8d] and lost with HI: two pair, Jacks and Eights
Seat 4: chaokuru (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: MAJORIVE (small blind) showed [2s 2d 5c 3h] and won ($14.14) with HI: four of a kind, Deuces
Seat 6: charzir (big blind) folded before Flop
2da mano me confie al pensar como tenia low y proyecto de color.
PokerStars Hand #88018438602: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2012/10/21 17:13:39 ET
Table 'Leonisis VIII' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: lskt ($6.88 in chips)
Seat 2: ~Sigish~ ($13.11 in chips)
Seat 3: Vigro26 ($8.01 in chips)
Seat 4: chaokuru ($8.70 in chips)
Seat 5: MAJORIVE ($14.02 in chips)
MAJORIVE: posts small blind $0.02
lskt: posts big blind $0.05
HOLE CARDS
Dealt to MAJORIVE [5d 2d 3h Ah]
~Sigish~: raises $0.12 to $0.17
Vigro26: calls $0.17
chaokuru: folds
MAJORIVE: calls $0.15
lskt: folds
FLOP [Th 8d 4d]
MAJORIVE: checks
~Sigish~: bets $0.54
Vigro26: folds
MAJORIVE: calls $0.54
TURN [Th 8d 4d] [7s]
MAJORIVE: checks
~Sigish~: bets $1.57
MAJORIVE: raises $4.71 to $6.28
~Sigish~: raises $6.12 to $12.40 and is all-in
MAJORIVE: calls $6.12
RIVER [Th 8d 4d 7s] [8s]
SHOW DOWN
MAJORIVE: shows [5d 2d 3h Ah] (HI: a pair of Eights; LO: 8,7,4,2,A)
~Sigish~: shows [2h 8c 4s Ac] (HI: a full house, Eights full of Fours; LO: 8,7,4,2,A)
~Sigish~ collected $12.72 from pot
MAJORIVE collected $6.36 from pot
~Sigish~ collected $6.36 from pot
SUMMARY
Total pot $26.44 | Rake $1
Board [Th 8d 4d 7s 8s]
Seat 1: lskt (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: ~Sigish~ showed [2h 8c 4s Ac] and won ($19.08) with HI: a full house, Eights full of Fours; LO: 8,7,4,2,A
Seat 3: Vigro26 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: chaokuru (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: MAJORIVE (small blind) showed [5d 2d 3h Ah] and won ($6.36) with HI: a pair of Eights; LO: 8,7,4,2,A
aqui veo un error el villano sube pre ahi falta el dato del pfr
pero imagino que tiene muchos a2 en su mano por su pot creo que tiene algo mas que solo su dlow
tu mano ahi va +-55/45 abajo contra otro a2+par
y no me molestaria meter mi dinero en el flop por 100bb pero vería cual es af y no vería mal foldear turn
mas por 200bb veo demasiado light stakearme ahi
La 3ra mano es contra un player 29/15/10 que me 3beteo y el flop fuimos all in porque imagine que podia tener set de aces o un low malo y asi fue pero el turn y river estuvieran en contra mia. Creo que a pesar de todo estuvo bien jugada la mano??
okerStars Hand #88017944269: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2012/10/21 17:05:09 ET
Table 'Betria III' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: feferrit03 ($2.70 in chips)
Seat 2: MAJORIVE ($5.07 in chips)
Seat 3: mylocote ($3.44 in chips)
Seat 4: mirvladiv ($11.13 in chips)
Seat 5: Rozilio ($4.20 in chips)
Seat 6: Vigro26 ($8.82 in chips)
Vigro26: posts small blind $0.02
feferrit03: posts big blind $0.05
HOLE CARDS
Dealt to MAJORIVE [6h 3c Ad Jd]
MAJORIVE: raises $0.12 to $0.17
mylocote: folds
mirvladiv: folds
Rozilio: raises $0.41 to $0.58
Vigro26: folds
feferrit03: folds
MAJORIVE: calls $0.41
FLOP [As 7c 4d]
MAJORIVE: bets $0.94
Rozilio: raises $2.68 to $3.62 and is all-in
MAJORIVE: calls $2.68
TURN [As 7c 4d] [3h]
RIVER [As 7c 4d 3h] [6c]
SHOW DOWN
MAJORIVE: shows [6h 3c Ad Jd] (HI: two pair, Aces and Sixes; LO: 7,6,4,3,A)
Rozilio: shows [2c Ah 7h 9c] (HI: two pair, Aces and Sevens; LO: 6,4,3,2,A)
Rozilio collected $4.06 from pot
Rozilio collected $4.06 from pot
SUMMARY
Total pot $8.47 | Rake $0.35
Board [As 7c 4d 3h 6c]
Seat 1: feferrit03 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: MAJORIVE showed [6h 3c Ad Jd] and lost with HI: two pair, Aces and Sixes; LO: 7,6,4,3,A
Seat 3: mylocote folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: mirvladiv folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Rozilio (button) showed [2c Ah 7h 9c] and won ($8.12) with HI: two pair, Aces and Sevens; LO: 6,4,3,2,A
Seat 6: Vigro26 (small blind) folded before Flop
el call al 3bet me gusta poquito muy poco
ademas debes pensar que el 3bet del 10%
casi siempre es alterado por el 3bet al steal
tu mano contra el top 10% o top 5 que imagino en posiciones que no sean las ciegas pfffffffffffff
por lo cual stakearme en ese flop ya es muy pero muy marginal
creo que la foldeo pre flop pagar 3bet oop con mano que esta +- como en el top25 y que estaria dominada tanto por low y por hi contra el top de su rango
en la siguiente mano no le veo sentido el cbet de bote
ya que contra villanos normales las das muy buenas odds para jugar call al 3bet y fold si no le pegan ya que das de implícitas toda tu caja
en la 4 no defendería con esa mano
Menudo fish jajajajaja.
Veo que alhefish ya le hizo las correcciones
Ahora si a lo serio, en lineas generales debes mejorar el juego por pocision, hacer call al 3 bet o pagar en ciegas con manos marginales siempre te dejara oop, oop no puedes tener control del bote y siempre estaras a merced de lo que hagan los villanos.
Donk bet
contra jugadores debiles quiza funcione, contra un jugador medio decente te dara mas dolres de cabeza que otra cosa; y mas si estas dejando tus cartas face up con el tamaño de apuesta.
Tamaño de apuesta: Pot Bet no es el unico tamaño de apuesa que existe xD, si no estoy mal has estado apostando pot bet con manos marginales o bluffs, polarizas tus manos y se hace muy facil leerte.
Por ultimo como dice alheocmo, a estudiar, aprenderse los rangos y a darle duro.
Saludos.