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eszibit
Joined: 10.12.2007

iPoker - £1 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: £105.75
Hero (BTN): £438.80
SB: £339.95
BB: £205.60
UTG: £100.00

SB posts SB £0.50, BB posts BB £1.00

Pre Flop: (£1.50) Hero has 4♦ A♦

fold, CO raises to £3.00, Hero calls £3.00, SB raises to £16.00, fold, fold, Hero calls £13.00

Flop: (£36.00, 2 players) T♦ 4♥ K♠
SB bets £20.00, Hero calls £20.00

Turn: (£76.00, 2 players) 7♦
SB bets £53.00, Hero calls £53.00

River: (£182.00, 2 players) 8♠
SB checks, Hero bets £349.80, SB calls £250.95

How the F@#k can he make such a moronic call? When he checks river i know he has a weak freakin pair that he is supposed to fold to that shove. First time i played him ,he seems like a weak reg and i have some stats on him from datamining : 17/12/1/31 with 6% 3bet
He tanks forever on the river and with 2 seconds to go he calls. If he had anything better he would bet river and i can snap fold.FFS


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Gerv
Joined: 07.05.2008

will be moved to BSS ;)


eszibit Topic starter
eszibit
Joined: 10.12.2007

damn,sorry about that,i was so upset i didn't even realize it's SSS thread


Gerv
Joined: 07.05.2008

From my POV: what do you think about a raise that small that you can shove under 1PSR on the River?

I think your river overbet shove makes people errrrr towards herocalling more in my opinion. A normal vBet would make him fold I think


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SvenBe
Joined: 19.04.2006
Shevtshenko
Joined: 06.12.2009

You rep TT/44 and QJ on river with that overbetshove and I'd be rather confident that if you had TT/44 you were betting smaller since villain rarely has a hand to call you with. So your range is wighted towards QJ. Obviously if you are overbet-bluffing with more than QJ, there's not much to say than nice call from villain.


supeyrio
Joined: 11.11.2009

agreed with shev. villian know he reps weak. and your shove just make it senseless as a value bet since you dont give villian a good price to call. but since you're so pissed he called, he could'nt have two pair or better. i guess he has AK at worst? i would be slightly pissed if he called me with a 2nd pair or worse, but i'm not shoving on the river for sure, esp when flop is K hi.


As the players above said you rep very little.

Most of your sets, if not all, would raise small at some point because I'd assume (as most villains) you want to play for a stack with them. The river does not bring any possible new 2p (other than 78 but you won't have 78 there almost ever). It's also very hard to imagine anyone playing a 1p type hand here for 300 BBs (AK comes to mind). As a side question, would you play AK like this vs villains like him?

On the river I believe that a 2/3 pot bet would look a bit scarier than your shove.

Alternatively, you can raise small on the turn and shove the river but stack sizes might be awkward.

Even if you raise to lets say $125 you will have a $326 pot with effective $178 behind.


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

Agree with several of the previous posters, a small raise on the turn will give you maximum foldequity because it reps a strong hand way better than the call followed by a bet when all draws bust.

However, once we do get to the river I also agree that the overbet doesn't represent a strong hand.
We also discussed the hand over skype and you told me that you'd expect any AK type hand to basically snapcall a 2/3 or 3/4 potsized bet. Now since I thought about it this would even be more a reason to not bet the river at all, after all against a callhappy opponent it's hard to bluff...


like always your image is so important here. People analyze hands here (in PS) in pure a vacuum with out know anything about hero,villain and their dynamics.
Generally Raising T is great here imo with a tight image, you got tons of FE and then can jam river with out overbetting. As played overbetting could be fine against decent opponent, but then again it's hard to judge with out knowing your dynamics.


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