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[Closed] donk into 3ppl NL100

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getdotacom
Joined: 06.04.2008

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Play hand

$0.5/$1 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

Known players:
[tg]CO$41.00:///////;BU$54.35:///////;SB (Hero)$196.25:///////;BB$103.85:///////;MP2$101.50:///////;MP3$42.75:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2:d, A:d.
MP2 folds, MP3 raises to $2.50, CO folds, BU calls $2.50, Hero calls $2.00, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($10) Q:s, 7:d, 8:d (4 players)
Hero bets $7.10, BB calls $7.10, MP3 folds, BU raises to $30.00, Hero raises to $193.75, BB calls $94.25(All-In), BU calls $21.85(All-In).

Turn: ($356.95) 6:d (3 players)

River: ($356.95) Q:c (3 players)

Final Pot: $356.95.
both players weak, like 20/12 AF~1.5
I like leading, coz preflop raiser won't cbet this board, but what to do after call & raise ?


7 replies
ttjjboy
Joined: 31.05.2009

I don't like the call pf as both mp3 and bu r short stack.
as played,I prefer a checkraise in this multiway pot


preflop I would prefer an sqz rather than a call.

As played I prefer leading, that way, in case you get raised you can put the last bet and shove all-in. You rarely have less than 35% Equity.


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

I agree with kakeiho, I also like a squeeze more than a call. Still, the fold might be the best option given the stacksizes and positions.

On the flop I also like the lead a lot because we really want worse FDs to call - and even if they call with smth like a Q we have great equity.

Vs the raise a call is the best option.
You don't have any foldequity at all because the raise after bet+call on the drawy board is a made hand almost always.
Therefore I'd try to keep BB in the hand: If he has a made hand we don't mind because we have the equity, if he has a worse FD we'd really hate to get it to fold (notice he probably never folds Qdxd, so we're gonna lose against that in any case).

If you call and he shoves you have an easy call because even vs superstrong ranges you still have 29%:


Board: Q♠8♦7♦
       Equity     Win     Tie
MP3    28.96%  28.96%   0.00% { Ad2d }
BU     27.25%  26.57%   0.68% { QQ+, 88-77, AQs, 87s, AQo }
BB     43.79%  43.11%   0.68% { QQ+, 88-77, 87s }


Shevtshenko
Joined: 06.12.2009

Why do you want to squeeze this pre so badly? If you squeeze to ~12$ here, you have to call it off vs. the pfr and it's close if you can even fold vs. the btn.


Against smaller staxksizes you make it smaller in order to be able to 3b fold, thats what i do.
I also dont squeeze with such hands to weak players, they call and stack off with any flopped bottom midpair.
I actually dont see why hero should fold such hand OOP. I think it can be profitable to just call against weaker players, we are also getting good odds.
Thats just my opinion ofc.


salflip
Joined: 02.10.2007

Originally posted by z1pz0r
I actually dont see why hero should fold such hand OOP. I think it can be profitable to just call against weaker players, we are also getting good odds.
Thats just my opinion ofc.

I disagree, we have a hand that is dominated alot vs a raise (esp vs a 20/12 AF~1.5 as described by the poster) & were OOP.
so I like a fold>Sq>call


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

Originally posted by salflip

Originally posted by z1pz0r
I actually dont see why hero should fold such hand OOP. I think it can be profitable to just call against weaker players, we are also getting good odds.
Thats just my opinion ofc.

I disagree, we have a hand that is dominated alot vs a raise (esp vs a 20/12 AF~1.5 as described by the poster) & were OOP.
so I like a fold>Sq>call

Agree.

You're ONLY calling to hit a FD and be aggro with it, ofc sometimes you'll get some action from worse FDs and are in pretty good shape, but in order to stack them you still have to hit the flush (weak players like them won't be too aggro with the FD so you cannot get it in).
And when they have a made hand you're not in terrible shape, but still an underdog.


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