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axelphoney
Joined: 03.10.2009

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NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($109)
Hero ($157)
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($33.45)
CO ($151)
BTN ($100)

Dealt to Hero J♦ K♥

UTG raises to $3, fold, CO calls $3, fold, fold, Hero raises to $12, UTG calls $9, fold

FLOP ($27.50) 4♥ 5♠ 2♦

Hero bets $15, UTG calls $15

TURN ($57.50) 4♥ 5♠ 2♦ T♣

Hero bets $28

UTG: TAG (anon tables, cant recall his exact stats)
CO: fish

Squeeze OK, even against an UTG raise to try to get HU with the fish?

As played postflop my thoughtprocess went like this:

He will often peel AQ and AK on the flop(16 combos each, whereas we maybe can reduce some combos of AK that might 4bet a x% number of the times). Besides that he can probaby have TT-QQ (and from time to tome also KK-AA), in total lets say around 20 combos.

I make it slightly over half pot on the turn so it does only need to work a bit more than 33% of the time, making it a +ev bet?

Thoughts?


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stealyourblinds
Joined: 20.01.2010

I don´t like much to squeeze light with fish on the hand, but after deciding to squeeze, i like your 2 bullets, would be shuting totaly down if got called on the turn


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nh imo, i like the squeeze and double barrel


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pleno1
Joined: 19.11.2010

I think it would be alot better if we started hand with say 135bbs so that we could find a pot sized river shove, we will get called down twice here very often, but stack to pot ratio isn't so good on the river after this turn bet as (if I'm not mistaking will be betting 50~ into 100~ giving him a great price to call.

If we were deeper and could jam 100 into 100 I think it would be alot better and give our range alot more balance.


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axelphoney
Joined: 03.10.2009

Yeah a riverbet will be terrible with these stacksizes, but how about betting turn and then giving up on the river, with the reasoning that he will peel AQ or AK on the flop a lot of the times (if not always)?


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pleno1
Joined: 19.11.2010

Yeah, I think again your thought process is spot on as long as we c/f non K/J rivers.


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Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

Originally posted by stealyourblinds
I don´t like much to squeeze light with fish on the hand, but after deciding to squeeze, i like your 2 bullets, would be shuting totaly down if got called on the turn

Definitely squeeze for value vs the fish.

As played I'd actually consider checking the flop because the fishes callingrange is absolutely crushing us:

Board: 5♦4♥2♠
       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    79.52%  78.24%   1.27% { 22+, AJs+, 98s, 87s, 76s, 65s, 54s, AJo+ }
CO     20.48%  19.21%   1.27% { KJo }

And we don't have too much foldequity.

Notice that you can put in some more broadways, but it doesn't change too much.
I really dislike starting to barrel when we're such a huge underdog, especially because Q and A are by no means clean cards and especially on a Q we can easily get another call from most PPs, the same goes for a T.


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axelphoney
Joined: 03.10.2009

We are HU against the TAG on the flop, not vs the fish. What do you think of my 2barrels then?


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Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

Hm imo the same applies, Ax is a favourite and never folds given the equity of GS+over, so the bet on the flop is not good in the first place.

If I bet the flop I do so with the plan of barreling flop-river.


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axelphoney
Joined: 03.10.2009

Forgive me if I am stubborn :P

But why don't you think he will fold all Ax on the turn? And AK,AQ being a big part of his range should make a bet +EV?


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Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

I'm not sure he folds them on the turn - that's why I bet turn AND river ;).
And why is a bet +EV when he has AK/AK and doesn't fold them?
In a vacuum I think flop&turn are both -EV, we can potentially make up for it with the riverbet, but given how little equity we have I'm just giving up in the first place.


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