nut flushdraw + gutshot + 1 over, OOP

_Anonymous_

12.06.2008, 19:45 0

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($52.30)
BB ($50.25)
UTG ($51)
MP ($51.70)
CO ($57.70)
Button ($17.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4, A.
4 folds, Hero completes, BB raises to $1.5, Hero calls $1.

Flop: ($3) K, J, Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $2, Hero raises to $8.85, BB calls $6.85.

Turn: ($20.70) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $12, Hero raises to $41.95, BB calls $27.90.

River: ($102.55) 7 (2 players)

Final Pot: $102.55

Why I don't raise preflop? I had done so 3 times in a row in blind vs blind and was 3 orbits on the table and didn't want to get 3bet of this hand.

I like to play my draws agressive, but I think this was a better spot to play it passive and just c/c the flop c/f the turn?
This board could easily have 2pairs and then my FE is none.

What u think?

6 replies

_Anonymous_

12.06.2008, 20:02 0

I don't like the way you played it.

First, if you know you're gonna get raised preflop, its OK to fold ! when you limp/call he knows your range is pretty polarized between trash/monster because you've been very active so either you're trapping or you've got a nice little good looking hand like A4s that you want to see a flop with. And really, I'd put you on the low end of that range, because why not keep on the aggression if you have a monster when you have no credit?

Aside from that, with A4s I don't know what you're hoping for OOP: look at various cases:
- you flop an ace, well if you get action you're smoked 99% of the time
- you flop nothing, well GG, muckemsayuhh
- you flop a draw, well good luck hitting and getting money from him when you do (you're implied odds are probably not as big as you think they are here)

now as you said, I think this is a nice spot to play passively. I mean, you limped call, and now you check/raise that big flop ? wtf ? like I said you could be trapping, but not that likely. when he calls, you can be pretty sure he has no intention of giving up. Plus if you check/call, you will actually get more credit for a big hand imo.

As played, he is giving you very good odds on the turn, take'em !

_Anonymous_ Topic starter

12.06.2008, 20:26 0

I dont like it either, I mean the turn is spewy as hell, but Ive noticed that my concentration in the end of a session is really bad, I really play bad in the last 30 minutes of my sessions I need to make even shorter sessions (I play 2 hour sessions atm). Focus problems

Preflop I was tryin to complete / bet any flop.
Then he made a small raise which I called for flush, or 2 pair value Ofcourse I was never gonna lose a lot of money on an ace high flop.

_Anonymous_ Topic starter

12.06.2008, 23:38 0

anyone?

chenny8888

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13.06.2008, 06:18 0

whatever. i can see spots where i could possibly consider the preflop line.

flop... yeah looks ok. you make him lay down enough Q type hands to make this profitable.

turn is just spew, sry. please check/call or check/fold it (i prefer check/call cause of the ridiculously awesome odds we're getting)

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_Anonymous_ Topic starter

13.06.2008, 15:15 0

agree with chenny

Thorsten77

Joined: 28.05.2006

Posts: 1,686

13.06.2008, 16:25 0

Preflop is marginal: personally, I don't like this move too much as you will play OOP w/o inititative and you don't have a clue about villains' range as he will raise you with about any2.

Flop is well played. Turn is an easy c/c. c/r doesn't make much sense

[Closed] nut flushdraw + gutshot + 1 over, OOP