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Joronamo
Joined: 17.10.2008

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Play hand

$0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

Known players:
[tg]BU$25.00:///////;SB (Hero)$32.35:///////;BB$8.70:///////;MP2$71.25:///////;MP3$23.50:///////;CO$27.25:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5:s, 5:c.
3 folds, BU raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.65, BB folds.

Flop: ($1.75) 6:s, 7:c, 4:s (2 players)
Hero checks, BU bets $1.00, Hero calls $1.00.

Turn: ($3.75) 6:d (2 players)
Hero checks, BU checks.

River: ($3.75) 5:d (2 players)
Hero bets $30.60(All-In), BU calls $23.25(All-In).

Final Pot: $57.6.
Results follow:

Hero shows a full-house, fives full of sixs(5:s 5:c).
BU shows a straight, eight high(8:d K:h).

Hero wins with a full-house, fives full of sixs(5:s 5:c).


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ZhiCheng
Joined: 04.10.2008

Jamming FTW

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Play hand

$0.15/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

Known players:
[tg]MP2$25.00:///////;MP3$39.05:///////;CO$12.70:///////;BU$4.65:///////;SB$24.35:///////;BB$25.00:///////;UTG2$19.30:///////;MP1(Hero)$64.05:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 7:d, 7:c.
UTG2 folds, Hero raises to $0.90, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.90, 3 folds, BB calls $0.65.

Flop: ($2.85) K:c, 7:h, 4:d (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.00, MP3 calls $2.00, BB folds.

Turn: ($6.85) 4:h (2 players)
Hero bets $4.20, MP3 calls $4.20.

River: ($15.25) 4:s (2 players)
Hero bets $40.00, MP3 calls $31.95(All-In).

Final Pot: $87.2.
Results follow:

Hero shows a full-house, sevens full of fours(7:d 7:c).
MP3 shows a full-house, fours full of kings(K:d T:c).

Hero wins with a full-house, sevens full of fours(7:d 7:c).


Joronamo
Joined: 17.10.2008

Haha nice Goo, jamming FTW~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!


peche025
Joined: 14.12.2008

I've not read Harrington's books, but I saw yesterday somewhere in the hand evaluation forums, someone says he recommending shoving the nuts on the river over value betting reasoning it's long run +ev any thoughts?


ihufa
Joined: 18.03.2008

$3/$6 No Limit Holdem
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG awawah ($315.05)
CO amer938 ($335.20)
BTN Hero ($1,462)
SB the_road ($603)
BB table-image ($691.50)

Pre-Flop: ($9, 5 players) Hero is BTN 6♣ 4♣
1 fold, amer938 calls $6, Hero raises to $24, 2 folds, amer938 calls $18

Flop: 9♣ Q♥ 9♥ ($57, 2 players)
amer938 checks, Hero bets $36, amer938 calls $36

Turn: J♦ ($129, 2 players)
amer938 checks, Hero bets $92, amer938 calls $92

River: 4♠ ($313, 2 players)
amer938 goes all-in $183.20, Hero calls $183.20

Final Pot: $679.40
amer938 shows PAIR NINE
A♣ K♠
Hero shows TWO_PAIR NINE FOUR
6♣ 4♣

Hero wins $676.40 (net +$341.20)

amer938 lost $335.20

jamming ftl!


ZhiCheng
Joined: 04.10.2008

LOL ihufa u sick bastard!!!

That guy's gonna be on tilt for the rest of his life

:heart: :heart:
How the hell u do such plays?


ihufa
Joined: 18.03.2008

mainly by tilting i guess :f_biggrin:


irregularity
Joined: 23.05.2008

ihufa _love:


People seem to have the concept of value betting incorrectly. Think about it this way, let's say you have a draw, like a flush draw or str8 draw on the flop, if you are only up against one opponent, the raise you make isn't a value bet because you are only putting in money against one opponent, you are not improving your odds in the hand. However, in the same sittuation, if there are 2 other opponents in, that is when you value bet, which increases your odds, thus giving you better value for being in the pot.


NightFrostaSS
Joined: 25.10.2008

Originally posted by NickSeraphim
People seem to have the concept of value betting incorrectly. Think about it this way, let's say you have a draw, like a flush draw or str8 draw on the flop, if you are only up against one opponent, the raise you make isn't a value bet because you are only putting in money against one opponent, you are not improving your odds in the hand. However, in the same sittuation, if there are 2 other opponents in, that is when you value bet, which increases your odds, thus giving you better value for being in the pot.


I confuse myself sometimes, however, the words of the mad man are true. In simpler words, if you hve a flush draw, and you bet one dollar, against one opponent you are only getting your money back if he calls, but if there is multiple opponents that makes the pot 3 dollars for every 1 of yours. That's what a value bet is.


Because the odds are against you 33 percent of getting the flush from there so it's bad value! if it was 50 /50 it's fine.


NightFrostaSS
Joined: 25.10.2008

Originally posted by NickSeraphim
I confuse myself sometimes, however, the words of the mad man are true. In simpler words, if you hve a flush draw, and you bet one dollar, against one opponent you are only getting your money back if he calls, but if there is multiple opponents that makes the pot 3 dollars for every 1 of yours. That's what a value bet is.

Originally posted by NickSeraphim
Because the odds are against you 33 percent of getting the flush from there so it's bad value! if it was 50 /50 it's fine.


Damn that is funny. PS I AM RETARD


Joronamo
Joined: 17.10.2008

Originally posted by NightFrostaSS

Originally posted by NickSeraphim
People seem to have the concept of value betting incorrectly. Think about it this way, let's say you have a draw, like a flush draw or str8 draw on the flop, if you are only up against one opponent, the raise you make isn't a value bet because you are only putting in money against one opponent, you are not improving your odds in the hand. However, in the same sittuation, if there are 2 other opponents in, that is when you value bet, which increases your odds, thus giving you better value for being in the pot.

+1


Kruppe
Joined: 20.02.2008

lol, draw-valuebetting your way to millions


speaking of jamming i have fond memories of a hand I played on full tilt as a dirty shortstacker.

I have A7 in the bb and i check. There are two limpers.

Flop: AAA. Well i guess I win. Check

Turn: T I still win so I check. Still no one wants the pot. They must have utter trash.

River: T

Time to put them to the test to see how stupid they really are. I shove all in for $19 into a $3 pot. To my amazement both call playing the board. One has Q9o and one has 85s. They were calling 19 to win 19 after rake. THANKS FOR YOUR MONEY!


Originally posted by noclaninator
speaking of jamming i have fond memories of a hand I played on full tilt as a dirty shortstacker.

I have A7 in the bb and i check. There are two limpers.

Flop: AAA. Well i guess I win. Check

Turn: T I still win so I check. Still no one wants the pot. They must have utter trash.

River: T

Time to put them to the test to see how stupid they really are. I shove all in for $19 into a $3 pot. To my amazement both call playing the board. One has Q9o and one has 85s. They were calling 19 to win 19 after rake. THANKS FOR YOUR MONEY!

LOL
As a self confessed complete fish i would have called too. :f_frown:
Thats why i read these threads, to learn.
Thanks.
Well thats learning over for today off to chill :f_cool:


Kruppe
Joined: 20.02.2008

Originally posted by noclaninator
speaking of jamming i have fond memories of a hand I played on full tilt as a dirty shortstacker.

I have A7 in the bb and i check. There are two limpers.

Flop: AAA. Well i guess I win. Check

Turn: T I still win so I check. Still no one wants the pot. They must have utter trash.

River: T

Time to put them to the test to see how stupid they really are. I shove all in for $19 into a $3 pot. To my amazement both call playing the board. One has Q9o and one has 85s. They were calling 19 to win 19 after rake. THANKS FOR YOUR MONEY!

nobody ever has 4 of a kind, you must have been cheating!


Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Play hand

$0.02/$0.05 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

Known players:
[tg]MP3$8.56:///////;CO$1.25:///////;BU$5.76:///////;SB$2.93:///////;BB (Hero)$5.95:///////;UTG1$4.88:///////;UTG2$5.57:///////;MP1$5.02:///////;MP2$5.02:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is BB with K:d, Q:c.
UTG1 folds, UTG2 calls $0.05, MP1 calls $0.05, 5 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.17) Q:s, T:s, 7:h (3 players)
Hero bets $0.15, UTG2 calls $0.15, MP1 folds.

Turn: ($0.47) K:s (2 players)
Hero bets $0.35, UTG2 calls $0.35.

River: ($1.17) Q:h (2 players)
Hero bets $5.40, UTG2 calls $5.02.

Final Pot: $11.59.
Results follow:

UTG2 shows a royal flush(J:s A:s).
Hero shows a full-house, queens full of kings(K:d Q:c).

UTG2 wins with a royal flush(J:s A:s).

jamming ftw