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AlmightyTT
Joined: 24.10.2009

Hello guys,
I play cash games and use HM2. I want to ask you, what exactly is the meaning of $EV Diff ?

In all other situations, this stat is 0. In the cases where it is in green, I think it is positive, but in all hands I lose.
I examine the hands and I can't find what dramatic mistake I'm making.I also don't know in the long run what kind of results such games would lead to.
I share the hands to make it clear.

Hand 1
PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 9 players
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UTG: $10.25 (103 bb)
UTG+1: $3.10 (31 bb)
MP: $10.00 (100 bb)
MP+1: $13.57 (136 bb)
LP: $10.00 (100 bb)
CO: $13.05 (131 bb)
BU (Hero): $12.61 (126 bb)
SB: $18.49 (185 bb)
BB: $10.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with J:spade: A:spade:
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.20, 4 players fold, Hero 3-bets to $0.80, SB calls $0.75, 1 fold, UTG+1 4-bets to $1.40, Hero calls $0.60, SB calls $0.60

Flop: ($4.30) T:spade: K:heart: 8:spade: (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $2.10, SB calls $2.10, UTG+1 calls $1.70 (all-in)

Turn: ($10.20) 2:club: (3 players, 1 all-in)
SB bets $14.99 (all-in), Hero calls $9.11 (all-in)

River: ($28.42) 3:club: (3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: $28.42 (Rake: $1)

Showdown:
SB shows Q:club: K:club: (a pair of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 35%, Flop: 36%, Turn: 57%, River: 100%)

UTG+1 shows T:diamond: 7:diamond: (a pair of Tens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 26%, Flop: 13%, Turn: 10%, River: 0%)

BU (Hero) shows J:spade: A:spade: (high card, Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 39%, Flop: 51%, Turn: 33%, River: 0%)

SB wins $27.42

Hand 2

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 7 players
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UTG: $10.00 (100 bb)
MP: $2.53 (25 bb)
MP+1: $14.41 (144 bb)
CO: $10.83 (108 bb)
BU (Hero): $10.00 (100 bb)
SB: $12.48 (125 bb)
BB: $10.30 (103 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with K:club: T:club:
UTG raises to $0.30, 2 players fold, CO calls $0.30, Hero 3-bets to $1.35, 2 players fold, UTG 4-bets to $10 (all-in), 1 fold, Hero calls $8.65 (all-in)

Flop: ($20.45) 7:club: T:diamond: Q:spade: (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($20.45) 7:diamond: (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($20.45) J:club: (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $14.51 (Rake: $1)

Showdown:
UTG shows K:diamond: A:diamond: (a straight, Ten to Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 71%, Flop: 30%, Turn: 34%, River: 100%)

BU (Hero) shows K:club: T:club: (two pair, Tens and Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 29%, Flop: 70%, Turn: 66%, River: 0%)

UTG wins $13.51

Hand 3
PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 7 players
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UTG: $6.90 (69 bb)
MP (Hero): $9.85 (99 bb)
MP+1: $8.80 (88 bb)
CO: $2.32 (23 bb)
BU: $13.60 (136 bb)
SB: $10.00 (100 bb)
BB: $10.59 (106 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with 6:club: 6:heart:
UTG raises to $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, MP+1 calls $0.20, CO 3-bets to $2.32 (all-in), 1 fold, SB calls $2.27, 2 players fold, Hero 4-bets to $9.85 (all-in), 1 fold, SB calls $7.53

Flop: ($22.52) 4:spade: 2:spade: 3:diamond: (3 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($22.52) 8:spade: (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($22.52) J:club: (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $22.52 (Rake: $1.25)

Showdown:
MP (Hero) shows 6:club: 6:heart: (a pair of Sixes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 24%, Turn: 10%, River: 0%)

CO shows K:club: A:diamond: (high card, Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 37%, Flop: 20%, Turn: 10%, River: 0%)

SB shows 9:spade: 9:club: (a pair of Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 44%, Flop: 57%, Turn: 81%, River: 100%)

SB wins $21.27


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Its simply difference with result of the hand and what your EV was when you went allin. So if you lose it will be positive and if won then negative as most of time you wont have 0% or 100% equity.

Last two of hands you listed seems like huge overplay to me.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

It's not really a good stat anyway. You should use EV adjusted winnings, which shows you the amount you would have won if all all-in situations would end exactly according to your winnin probability.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Originally posted by ghaleon
Its simply difference with result of the hand and what your EV was when you went allin. So if you lose it will be positive and if won then negative as most of time you wont have 0% or 100% equity.

Last two of hands you listed seems like huge overplay to me.

Agree. Even the first hand is most likely a fold on the turn with only a draw.
KTs hand is way to loose to stack off for 100bb effective. Huge change to be dominated.
If you have 2 life cards it will be the best case scenario in a spot like this.
66 is a easy fold as well against a 3bet shove and a over call of the SB. You are lucky if you shove that you are flipping against the all-inn player and the SB could stack off as well. You're range is really capped after you're call against the min raise of the UTG player.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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AlmightyTT
Joined: 24.10.2009

Thank you!
I will start working on these tips. I will make notes in a prominent place so that I don't make these mistakes again.
I wish you luck and thanks again!


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