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Stackoffski
Joined: 08.09.2021

For how long do you think can the pokersites "make sure" their players have no side-app running that actually plays the game for them?

As AI, solvers, and apps for everything that exist become more popular in the future, software perhaps becomes more AI-based, everything becomes wide-spread available, I mean ... there is no stopping this right?

(Quantum-computing also on it's way ... that will chance this world like never before!!!)

But, will online poker cease to exist because of it? Or will we find ways to still play the game with a possible edge on opponents?

Maybe we can find new ways to play the game ...


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imgoingtomirage
Joined: 03.07.2010

It didn't.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I don't know, but without technology online poker didn't exist in the first place.
Off course bots will be even more advance in the future and than it will be tougher to locate them.


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Stackoffski
Joined: 08.09.2021

Originally posted by imgoingtomirage
It didn't.

I don't think this technological revolution is over yet, it really just started


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VisionBoard
Joined: 24.05.2024

Hmm... This is an interesting topic.

I think bots and side-app-user will increase but poker sites will keep fighting them.

I hope I can VR poker in the future:f_tongue:


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taavi1337
Joined: 29.05.2009

we need to dive deep to computer science and law, how cyberspace is created and how law regulates it.


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Stackoffski
Joined: 08.09.2021

Originally posted by VisionBoard
I hope I can VR poker in the future:f_tongue:

I bet you can :f_drink:! ANd without the crazy goggles! :f_biggrin:


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Stackoffski
Joined: 08.09.2021

Originally posted by taavi1337
we need to dive deep to computer science and law, how cyberspace is created and how law regulates it.

Yes, cyberspace will be a world of it's own, or maybe rather another layer on top of this world. Tough job to do though, the regulations :f_biggrin::f_mad:


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taavi1337
Joined: 29.05.2009

Anyone could create any number of cyberspaces with any device they invented, having any number of poker cardrooms running in them. This is where the gambling law comes in, you have to pay extra taxes if you wish to offer real money games to people.


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casinowizard
Joined: 25.06.2024

I highly doubt that technology is going to slow down online poker. I believe it's just going to make it better, regardless of the growth of AI.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by casinowizard
I highly doubt that technology is going to slow down online poker. I believe it's just going to make it better, regardless of the growth of AI.

Hi casinowizard,
Welcome to PokerStrategy.com :welcome:

Rather optimistic — but I like it. Regardless, the advance of AI will change online poker, and we'll adapt.

I regularly use an AI-enhanced tool called "Perplexity" to get answers to programming problems, and for fact-checking crap from facebook, twitter etc.

So far, I haven't used it for analysing poker hands.
I just did a dummy hand with a fairly obvious answer to see what it would say.
Please check this link, and let me know if it doesn't work.
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/You-are-playing-V5Zoaf_fQX2rZ8ixwEKT7A

All the best,
VS


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Stackoffski
Joined: 08.09.2021

Blows my mind already Vorpal! Now wait a couple of years (or until quantum-computing, I'm telling ya :f_mad::f_biggrin:)


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Stackoffski
Joined: 08.09.2021

Originally posted by casinowizard
I highly doubt that technology is going to slow down online poker. I believe it's just going to make it better, regardless of the growth of AI.

Maybe it'll be better, yes! not regardless of AI I think though, but because of ... I could think of some AI-driven VR-situation like Visionboard as well!


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Rhodriguez
Joined: 01.10.2006

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
I regularly use an AI-enhanced tool called "Perplexity" to get answers to programming problems, and for fact-checking crap from facebook, twitter etc.

So far, I haven't used it for analysing poker hands.
I just did a dummy hand with a fairly obvious answer to see what it would say.
Please check this link, and let me know if it doesn't work.
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/You-are-playing-V5Zoaf_fQX2rZ8ixwEKT7A

If the button calls your 4-bet, you'll be playing a large pot in position with the best possible starting hand, which is an ideal situation.

As always with generative AI, the results are amazing when you don't know what to expect. But you never sure if you would be faster on your own if you need something precise.

The solution will be more ring-fenced player pools with less income disparity. Even more regulations from the gambling commission in each country.

Are you worried for online poker as a source of income or way to spend time as recreation? Maybe then it would be easier to steer the discussion in one direction.


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Stackoffski
Joined: 08.09.2021

Originally posted by Rhodriguez
Are you worried for online poker as a source of income or way to spend time as recreation? Maybe then it would be easier to steer the discussion in one direction.

Ah yeah, well actually I am not that worried, I'll find something else, but I guess I meant "source of income", because I meant playing it profitably. I am more 'worried' about all games like this, chess, cardgames, all sorts of things, but we will probably get better things in return!


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Stackoffski
Joined: 08.09.2021

Also, with AI I just mean "software", because AI will be more and more integrated in software, operating systems etc


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acesfull
Joined: 02.06.2024

Originally posted by Stackoffski

But, will online poker cease to exist because of it? Or will we find ways to still play the game with a possible edge on opponents?

It won't, because
1) People enjoy playing the game. Most people sit at a poker table to try to outsmart opponents. I'm quite sure that only a small minority (say 5-10%) would even consider using a RTA solver just to make money.
2) Poker sites are apparently quite good at recognizing bots and banning them
3) Someone using a RTA tool will probably only be able to play 1-2 tables at a time. That's painfully slow (and boring) compared to 9-12 tables that you can manage without any software.
4) In the future, it may become normal that winning players are required to record themselves on video playing multiple sessions to prove that they are not using any RTA.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by acesfull
3) Someone using a RTA tool . That's painfully slow (and boring) compared to 9-12 tables that you can manage without any software.
4) In the future, it may become normal that winning players are required to record themselves on video playing multiple sessions to prove that they are not using any RTA.

Well I can play more than 2 tables, but can I play more than two tables well? Not really. Note that I don't play hold'em much. Most other games require focus.
I like the idea of recording, but I suggest that it only be required at higher stakes.


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