Study while sleeping (literally)

You watch too much inception bro

Hey martinemem,

This very question has intrigued me for decades. I have seen and known people to listen to motivational and learning whilst sleeping.

So interesting that I have decided to turn it in to a poll here. Wouldn't it be great as poker players to be able to play while awake and study while you sleep.

Cheers

Laz

If by lucid dreaming you mean hypnosis, then yes, I believe to some extent that you can talk to the subconscious this way (including self-suggestion by a pre-recorded audio file).

I slept through countless lectures at university, and still got a degree, so perhaps there is something to it

However, I personally think that sleep is necessary for the mind to sort out its input from the previous day, and perhaps prepare for the next.

I have had numerous incidents of suddenly waking up with the solution to a problem I had been working on.

I'm not sure if trying to stuff more input in during sleep would be long-term helpful.

Would you feel as rested in the morning?

Also, for myself personally, I sleep best in total silence.
Certain sounds -- like doors opening -- bring me to full wakefulness instantly. Other sounds -- especially natural ones or common ones I can sleep right through.

I don't think I'd do well with spoken audio playing while I slept.

Cheers,
--VS

Always listen to the same music when grinding. Then turn that music on during the night. BOOM session review initiated in your brain while you sleep.

Originally posted by tonypmm
If by lucid dreaming you mean hypnosis, then yes, I believe to some extent that you can talk to the subconscious this way (including self-suggestion by a pre-recorded audio file).

I guess hypnosis is in the same category as lucid dreaming. And yes you can both hypnotize yourself and you can activate a lucid dream by yourself.
But still i dont think its that compareable.

A lucid dream is when you are sleeping, and realizing you are dreaming, but not waking up. I think it was around 10-25 lucid dreams everyone experience during their life. But it should be possible to have them even 10000x as often.

I have never been hypnotized, so i dont know that much about how that works. I do know that since its possible to recover memory hidden by your brain to protect yourself from the memory. So in some sense it is maybe the same thing.
That exact thing, recover hidden memory, is maybe the most usefull. Selective memory is why im still @ micro stakes.
When i think about it, i have had i think 2+ lucid dreams. One around 16 years ago, the other bw 10-20 nov last year. And it is first now that i understand what it really was. And im pretty sure i have had much more than theese 2. But theese 2 i can remember.

Would you feel as rested in the morning?

In theory, yes. But i do not know. REM sleep is the sleeping state where you actually get something out of sleeping. And you cant dream without beeing in REM sleep right?

Always listen to the same music when grinding. Then turn that music on during the night. BOOM session review initiated in your brain while you sleep.

Very creative and powerfull advise. Without trying it yet im actually already sure it will do something at least. The purpose is to connect one of the senses with a experience, so that when this sense hear something similiar, the brain will think about what happened during that song right?
The reason i think this could work, is because i have tried grinding with a playlist. Then a song comes on, and you at the same time deviate from a gameplan, and you ended up tilting because of it. Then next day with same playlist, you instantly remember what happened during the "tilt-"song.

This is probably a personal oppinion, but do you think it would work best to have a music schedule. So for instance, when you take a shot at next limit; playlist1, when you do a quick summary of the biggest pots; playlist2, when you think about why you are analyzing a poem for the school; playlist3?
Do you think that to have a "choice of action" to what you wanna think about during sleep, would only complicate or improve this approach?

Originally posted by martinemem
A lucid dream is when you are sleeping, and realizing you are dreaming, but not waking up. I think it was around 10-25 lucid dreams everyone experience during their life. But it should be possible to have them even 10000x as often.

I somehow managed to do this when I was quite young. I even remember the dream in which it occurred.

It was a dream that re-occurred often, and at some point I took control of it. After that, I pretty much could do as I wished.

I have never intentionally tried to do anything constructive, though.

I should look into this...
--VS

Originally posted by lnternet
Always listen to the same music when grinding. Then turn that music on during the night. BOOM session review initiated in your brain while you sleep.

What kind of music would be best for this?

Originally posted by kenthmp

Originally posted by lnternet
Always listen to the same music when grinding. Then turn that music on during the night. BOOM session review initiated in your brain while you sleep.

What kind of music would be best for this?

I imagine something like this...

For me its stupid, because poker is very tiring thing and for that you need to have time for your brain to rest to be refreshed on the next day.

Originally posted by Sepurta
For me its stupid, because poker is very tiring thing and for that you need to have time for your brain to rest to be refreshed on the next day.

While it is true it is very energy consuming, it doesnt have to be bad thing though.

To paint a picture of something compareable: 0 stress is just as bad as too much stress.

So if you can rest while thinking about poker, how can that ever be stupid?