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R call with A high on double paired board

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Sailer85
Joined: 15.10.2009
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Hand #12
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.20 Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2923141
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Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is CO with A :heart: 5 :heart:
1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, SB calls, 1 fold

Flop: (5 SB) 9 :diamond: K :club: K :spade: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls

Turn: (3.5 BB) 9 :spade: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (3.5 BB) 3 :heart: (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls

My thoughts:
PF & F: standard
T: well T is good, and I probably have the best hand (or split with other A), a bet would isolate me vs split or better. by not betting I keep the bluffs in his range.
R: I have to call as a bluff catcher

You agree?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008
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It looks fine to me against a unknown to play the hand like this.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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pcbeem
Joined: 16.07.2008
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Yeah stupid bet of villian that does not make any sense, easy call.

And if he has a FH it's a cheap note :)


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009
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You can call because, as you say, you have a bluff catcher. But it is questionable whether one should call with all bluff catchers. You will have a load of other A high and maybe some pocket pairs TT-QQ as well (depending on how you play the latter). Calling with all bluff catchers should only be done exploitatively, and this is definitely one of the worst in the range.

Villains river bet makes loads of sense with counterfeited underpairs, but also with all 9x and Kx.


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DAIMA2
Joined: 12.04.2011
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After sb bet there are 4,5 big blinds
So lets see if for sb is better for him if you call or if you pass the opposite would be for you.
So for sb
1 if sb bluffs 30% has A 30% and better hand 40% then if you call
Sb will win after 100 times the pot 10%*5'5bb*100 55bb and because he has put at the pot about the half he would have more money 27,5 bb at his pocket
If you pass he would get 4,5 bb *100 450 bb and because he has put little not than half he would have at his pocket almost 200 bb more
2 lets make the 30,30 40% different at worse for him
Bluffs 50% tie 30% better hand 20%
If you call he would loose the pot that is30%*5'5*100 165 bb and So he has to his pocket 83bb less
If you pass he would have 200 bb more
3 So if 100 times the first happens and 100 times the second
If you pass he would have 200+200 400bb
If you call he could have 27,5-83 about -56 bb less
So for him it is better to pass and for you to call


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008
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I’m most likely not awake yet, but I don’t really understand what you mean DAIMA2?
Also, it’s a little bit weird to answer about a hand that was posted almost a half year ago, I think.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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DAIMA2
Joined: 12.04.2011
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You are wright about the time but there are not fixed limit hands recent
Pls write if you dont want to comment older posts
As for what i wrote
I compared at 2 different propable situations the result of the money that sb would have more or less after the hand at every off the 2 situations, if co folded or called and then i add the result of 2 situations
After that the conclusion is that for sb it is better for him the co to pass
So it is better for co to call


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DAIMA2
Joined: 12.04.2011
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Also there is an other way to compute
There are 3 different numbers if co calls
How many times he wines because sb bluffs how many times ties with sb having 1 ace and how many times he loose because if a better hand
We will see for various numbers off ties because else mathematics would be more complex
Every time he passes at the river the result for his pocket egual zero
So it is better if he call the result to be better than 0
All the computing would be for 100 times x will be the times that co looses,
and 100-x-ties the times he wins
1tie 30%
He looses x.(-1)
He wins (70-x).4,5
The result must be more than zero
So. X.(-1)+(70-x).4,5>0. ~ -x+70.4,5-x.4,5>0. ~x<315/5,5 ~x<57,3
So. If sb bluffs more than 70-57,3=12,7 times per 100 it is better for co to call
2 tie 20%
Working with the same way x<80.4,5/5,5. ~x<360/5,5.~ x<65,5
So now if sb bluffs more than 80-65,5=13,5 times the co must call
3 tie 10%
With the same way co must call if sb bluffs more than 16,4 times
Conclusion
With ties from 10 till 30% if co call he will win if sb bluffs more from 16,4. Till
12,7% and i think that except sb is very very consevative co must call
I.e if ties are more than 30% things for co would be more better


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008
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Don’t forget that you can post hands yourself as well and then others will post most likely as well and more action will return.


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DAIMA2
Joined: 12.04.2011
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I dont have software and with tablet i see the history only of the last hand


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