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65s on SB vs BTN, 3bet pot

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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017
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GG Poker - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB
Hero (SB): 180.4 BB
BB: 114.16 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 101.72 BB
CO: 126.36 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 5♠ 6♠

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.52 BB, Hero raises to 11.12 BB, fold, BTN calls 8.6 BB

Flop: (23.24 BB, 2 players) 6♦ A♥ 4♠
Hero bets 8.16 BB, BTN calls 8.16 BB

Turn: (39.56 BB, 2 players) 5♥
Hero bets 30.88 BB, BTN calls 30.88 BB

River: (101.32 BB, 2 players) 7♥
Hero checks, BTN bets 49.84 BB and is all-in, Hero ? ?

The villain is a reg.

Thoughts?


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I am gonna shove river for value out of high naked ace. If you check he will most likely check them behind. Dont see many 8 or 3 in his range. A8-A3 are the only one, maybe 88. But dont see what do you beat as well. So you can make a laydown here


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008
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If you compare it with the AA hand you 3bet sizing is now smaller and Cbet is really small.
Also you're Cbet on the turn with 2 pair is pretty big. Not sure it has to do with you're actual hand strength, but that makes both hands interesting.

I would shove the river as well. Now you are also prized in to call.

Cheers,
DK1987


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Dr1fter808
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Originally posted by SDK1987
If you compare it with the AA hand you 3bet sizing is now smaller and Cbet is really small.
Also you're Cbet on the turn with 2 pair is pretty big. Not sure it has to do with you're actual hand strength, but that makes both hands interesting.

I would shove the river as well. Now you are also prized in to call.

Cheers,
DK1987

I think my turn sizing looks like I'm betting a draw.


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Dr1fter808
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Originally posted by NapoleonBonaparte135
I am gonna shove river for value out of high naked ace. If you check he will most likely check them behind. Dont see many 8 or 3 in his range. A8-A3 are the only one, maybe 88. But dont see what do you beat as well. So you can make a laydown here

Check this out.

According to solver, 65s on SB is 0% 3bet vs BTN.

I think I learned something here.


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3bet is not that bad if you have decent FE


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Dr1fter808
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Originally posted by NapoleonBonaparte135
3bet is not that bad if you have decent FE

I want to find out what the hand uploader mean for GTO Wizard. I'm starting to think that the stats are hand specific as in this case, 65s is never a 3bet preflop vs AKo.


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mkBISCUIT
Joined: 19.01.2018
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solver read outs go by other players, playing like a solver. That doesn't happen very often. IF the BTN has a wide open range 3 betting 65s in SB isn't a bad exploit play. is rather good. As for hand I don't mind the check if you think villain will bet, but then you just need to call it off and not be afraid of the flushy..

and if not Jam away!!!


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009
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Wouldn't 3b pre
sizing is too big. 3b to 9 unless you have a nutty holding KK/AA

x/c flop. You have a pair + backdoor OESD
As played you can bet turn but not that big. We're not happy to get it in. I think you need to think more about "am i willing to go broke here" and if not, size down. Bet 1/2 max. If villian calls and the river isn't too bad, you can bet again for thin value.


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Dr1fter808
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Originally posted by DecMate
Wouldn't 3b pre
sizing is too big. 3b to 9 unless you have a nutty holding KK/AA

x/c flop. You have a pair + backdoor OESD
As played you can bet turn but not that big. We're not happy to get it in. I think you need to think more about "am i willing to go broke here" and if not, size down. Bet 1/2 max. If villian calls and the river isn't too bad, you can bet again for thin value.

I was willing to go broke here, and I thought I did until SD.


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Dr1fter808
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Wait, is AK now bluffing on river?


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DecMate
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I mean, we should expect a 4B from AK pre.

It's not the worst spot on the turn i guess but betting that big, you just bloat the pot wayy too much. You may even get villain to fold AQ/AJ. And if villain jams over our turn bet, how can we call there? Most villains are not jamming AJ/AQ. They have all A5/6/4/ 4's 6's even 5's. At best he has a FD or AJ/AQ which still has equity vs us, at worst we're drawing dead.

I think you just make the spot alot more difficult for yourself betting this big. I wouldn't race to get the money in in this spot.


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Dr1fter808
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Originally posted by DecMate
I mean, we should expect a 4B from AK pre.

It's not the worst spot on the turn i guess but betting that big, you just bloat the pot wayy too much. You may even get villain to fold AQ/AJ. And if villain jams over our turn bet, how can we call there? Most villains are not jamming AJ/AQ. They have all A5/6/4/ 4's 6's even 5's. At best he has a FD or AJ/AQ which still has equity vs us, at worst we're drawing dead.

I think you just make the spot alot more difficult for yourself betting this big. I wouldn't race to get the money in in this spot.

Yeah, I guess so. I thought two pair was the nuts at the time but I could've been wrong too.


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