A nice Bluff hand

Whats your thought proces on flop and turn?

cool story

Bravo! But your betting line makes no sense at all

Originally posted by livethelife7
Whats your thought proces on flop and turn?

flop he was the PreflopRaiser so i took a stab at the pot.
He called even tough i dont see many hands that x/c as pfr in multiway pot.
If he has a pair lower than top pair , or maybe overcards AK, AQ, QK, ...

On turn i bet to fold the pairs... and when he raised, i shoved to fold AQ,AK

AK, AQ will not fold here.
Flop stab is very small.

Considering all the action, I don't see a villain to bluff raise the turn very often. Then I think it's questionable if he is raising TP and if he does, it's very questionable if he is folding to a 3bet. Fortunatelly, in this case he probably decided to fold it.

We do not have to bluff here too.

TBH, I don't hate the play (but I don't love it). I think we ran a successful rebluff this time. Villains line is, ..., suspect! No bare A there, though he tries to represent something like that. ... Well, maybe, but then the bluff is good. I'm changing my mind. Villains range is capped at TP. WP!

Either we call/fold 100% here or we must have a bluffing range.

these plays are likely hurting your winrate , If we want to stab at the pot, stab at it OTF and give up.

On this particular flop may not stab with 33, is a very coordinated board and multiway I expect very low fold equity. If we stab multiway should probably be something with atleast some sort equity when called A7,K8 type of minimum i guess

At micros we are making money from these PP's when you hit a set and stack a guy who can't fold, cool it worked and might be a fun play but I would bet my two front teeth it's not a winning play

Originally posted by bonecore

Originally posted by livethelife7
Whats your thought proces on flop and turn?

flop he was the PreflopRaiser so i took a stab at the pot.
He called even tough i dont see many hands that x/c as pfr in multiway pot.
If he has a pair lower than top pair , or maybe overcards AK, AQ, QK, ...

On turn i bet to fold the pairs... and when he raised, i shoved to fold AQ,AK

On the turn AQ and AK have called flop to hit an A or a K/Q. They are not folding when they hit it most of the time. For example in this spot they have to call ~$6 to win $15. This is an insta call if they're against someone spewing KT, JQ etc. Getting pot odds of ~3:1 they can't fold vs your range. You are giving the impressing of sets a lot and your flat of the 3bet does give premise to sets but I don't think you get AK to fold a lot here.

I prefer a river bluff/ overbet if checking back turn. You can check back turn on semi-wet flop as A should hit villain therefore he may lead river and you can raise all in. I think this line protects your two pair, sets and bluffs rather than a line you took which is very much sets or bluffs (your threes in this case were turned in to a bluff).