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stttNNN
Joined: 21.07.2010

just wondering if its +EV to call in this type of spot.

we are facing a squzze from tight player i BB 4% 3bet and I cant see him do this with som kind of week hand but when pfr call do we have odds to call and try to flop like 2pair or something u know and win huge like a setmine. I will def call this with a PP but with thes kind of hands i dont relly know what to do.. :f_cry:

ITS NL200$ not NL1k$

$5/$10 No Limit Holdem
10 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($1,674.07) 167bb
UTG+1 ($2,568.48) 257bb
UTG+2 ($1,041.58) 104bb
MP1 ($1,465.90) 147bb
MP2 ($1,828.78) 183bb
stttNNN (MP3) ($1,000) 100bb
CO ($2,486.65) 249bb
BTN ($839.03) 84bb
SB ($491.76) 49bb
BB ($1,999.35) 200bb

Pre-Flop: ($15, 10 players) stttNNN is MP3 Q♦ J♣
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $28.75, 3 folds, stttNNN calls $28.75, 3 folds, BB raises to $97.18, UTG+1 calls $68.43, stttNNN folds

Flop: 10:diamond: 8♠ 9♠ ($228.11, 2 players)
BB bets $228.11, UTG+1 folds

Final Pot: $-6
stttNNN shows
Q♦ J♣

BB wins $450.52 (net +$105.23)

UTG+1 lost $68.43
stttNNN lost $28.75


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Yuck!

I hate it when you flop the miracle after you folded.
The F2F in my name means "Folds Too Fast"

But in reality, what does Equilab tell you about your hand.

If you plug in the likely ranges for UTG and BB, what is your Equity?

Is that enough given the pot odds?

I didn't actually check equilab myself -- let us know what it says.

Best of luck,
--VS


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xenomorphic
Joined: 29.12.2010

i think the bigger problem here is calling a UTG open with QJo. waaay too wide especially on fullring


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stttNNN
Joined: 21.07.2010

the guy who is opening UTG opens like 14% UTG so I think i will have good chance to take this pott down HU alot.


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CPallo
Joined: 12.04.2012

I would be folding here a lot, too.

Calling QJo is way too loose here, as there are still plenty of players behind you that could make your life hard with squeeze. Even if they don't squeeze and just flat you have some problems post-flop. It's also hard for you to hit a big hand (straight is quite rare tbh) so you are basically losing big pots and taking down small ones.

So, fold here pre-flop. And fold against squeeze, again. :f_cool:


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

if he's wide utg i would def consider 3betting. :f_eek:
calling with co+bu+blinds behind sucks as you either get overcalled or squeezed too often and then your plan of "taking it down hu" doesn't work anymore, not to mention that even when you get hu you often still will simply lose postflop :f_biggrin:


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Lefty85
Joined: 08.06.2008

14% isn't really that wide. Your hand does terrible against a 14% range. Unless you have some sick postflop skills you are going to be losing money calling this hand preflop.


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

it's wide for fr utg.


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stttNNN
Joined: 21.07.2010

this guy is calling alot of 3bets OOP but folds pretty much to cbets on flop so a 3bet or fold is the best option here maybe?


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

if he folds a lot to cbets thats even better


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stttNNN
Joined: 21.07.2010

okey thx!


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