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hit topset 4bet pot. How to max value?

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1d4BestByTest
Joined: 11.12.2010

GG Poker - $0.05 Ante $0.02 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (MP): 219.2 BB
CO: 241.4 BB (VPIP: 14.75, PFR: 13.11, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 61)
BTN: 170 BB (VPIP: 16.39, PFR: 14.75, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 61)
SB: 198.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
BB: 239.4 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 12)
UTG: 196.6 BB (VPIP: 39.34, PFR: 3.28, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 61)

6 players post ante of 0.4 BB, SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 3.8 BB) Hero has K:diamond: K:club:

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, CO raises to 10.4 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 9.4 BB, Hero raises to 42 BB, fold, BB calls 31.6 BB

Flop: (97.2 BB, 2 players) 3:spade: T:club: K:heart:
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (97.2 BB, 2 players) 5:spade:
BB bets 34.4 BB, Hero calls 34.4 BB

River: (166 BB, 2 players) 8:spade:
BB bets 58.4 BB,

Preflop: their call is of course very hard to judge. Not really any hand that makes sense to call 3bet and then call 4bet. I don't think I mentally did enough effort to put them on range, but is also very hard

Flop:hitting nuts, but not super easy to get value. Since I have very nutsy range. Also only need 2 streets to get all the money in 4bet pot. And they likely have (almost) no outs. So seemed perfect spot to check behind to let them hit second best hand/give option to bluff

Turn they make this weakish bet. Of course possible they hit the flushdraw, but any case their average outs still should be minimal. So I give them option for extra chance to bluff. And anyway, I can get it in on the river vs the value hands.

River: spades complete. Now I wasn't sure enough if I still can get value here. Just calling feels super weak, but how many hands can I expect to get paid?

Really unsure about the whole hand.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Me? I 4Bet shove this pre-flop any day of the week.

Even 200 BB deep.

As played, I bet 1/2 pot on the flop — you will get called from all the AA, QQ, AQ etc.
If CO 3Bet pre, they're unlikely to fold this flop.


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1d4BestByTest
Joined: 11.12.2010

It is not Co that called. It is BB

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
Me? I 4Bet shove this pre-flop any day of the week.

Even 200 BB deep.

As played, I bet 1/2 pot on the flop — you will get called from all the AA, QQ, AQ etc.
If CO 3Bet pre, they're unlikely to fold this flop.

It is not CO that called it is BB


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by 1d4BestByTest
It is not CO that called it is BB

Quite right. Ooops
So BB cold-called a 4Bet. The downside is that doing so shows considerable strength.
The upside is that you're now in position, and even more important to bet the flop.
You'll get called by a host of big pairs


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

A jam would be really big for 200bb effective. Especially with position.
I prefer a around 30bb Cbet on the flop for value and continue barreling so you can shove the river for value,
River isn't the most ideal card. Especially after checking the flop it's more likely villain had runner runner flush in his range.
I don't think it's a huge mistake to just call against a unknown so deep.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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