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x3ndeDx
Joined: 22.08.2012

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 134 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
SB: 137.5 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
Hero (BB): 166 BB
UTG: 117.5 BB (VPIP: 62.50, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
MP: 288.5 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
CO: 135.5 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K♣ J♣

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 16.5 BB, MP calls 13.5 BB, CO calls 13.5 BB, fold

Flop: (52.5 BB, 3 players) K♠ 8♣ 4♦
Hero checks, MP checks, CO bets 25 BB, Hero calls 25 BB, fold

Turn: (102.5 BB, 2 players) 9♥
Hero checks, CO checks

River: (102.5 BB, 2 players) 4♣
Hero checks, CO checks

Spoiler

Hero shows K♣ J♣ (Two Pair, Kings and Fours)
(Pre 50%, Flop 90%, Turn 95%)
CO mucks 5♣ 5♦ (Two Pair, Fives and Fours)
(Pre 50%, Flop 10%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins 99 BB

Would you squeeze that preflop, or its better to just call?

As played, I think I have little value to get on betting the flop, so I checked to bet on later streets, after seeing some agression on the flop, I decided to just call down and try to win on showdown. But I dont know what to do if villain bets the river the way I played. Also, I dont know if I could bet on the river myself to get some value of worst hands.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I wouldn’t squeeze at a NL2 table with KJs out of position, because KJs played pretty good post-flop in a multi way pot and you don’t want to play a big pot out of position with the possibility you end up still multi way against players that likes to call most of the time.

As played I would always go for a value Cbet with top pair decent kicker. You don’t want that they get a free card to hit something crazy they called pre-flop with, you want to know where you at as well and you could lose value as well with checking.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I would not squeeze. I would cbet the flop. I would fire thin valuebet OTR.


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

I don´t think squeezing is bad here. OTF we should Cbet.


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piR
piR
Joined: 31.08.2008

I would not sqz here just call is fine unless you know that MP PFR is really wide then 3bet value against him is OK I suppose (CO and SB are probably not strong PF here).
As played Cbet flop and thin value bet OTR imo.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Originally posted by x3ndeDx
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As played, I think I have little value to get on betting the flop, so I checked to bet on later streets, after seeing some agression on the flop, I decided to just call down and try to win on showdown. But I dont know what to do if villain bets the river the way I played. Also, I dont know if I could bet on the river myself to get some value of worst hands.

That is a good description of what will usually happen. (I'd change it to that you decided to just call down and hope and pray that you can get to showdown for free.)

The math is that you invest 16.5 BB to win the 10 BB in the pot right away. You need to win this right away 60-70% of the time to make this automatically profitable. This will not happen, especially since you are deep with several of the players. If they know you are squeeze happy, they should be calling liberally.

The hand: It is almost exactly the hand you don't want to have OOP in a big pot HU (which is the single most likely outcome). Hitting it is mostly bad news, you can never win big with hitting TP + shit kicker.

More on the hand: It is almost ideal for seeing a cheap flop in a small multiway pot with deep stacks. Now you'll flop big often enough. Checking and folding TP + shit kicker will be easy.

EDIT: As sometimes happens, the worst line actually turns out to be the optimal line (spoiler :)) given what villain held and how he actually played. Don't take this as confirmation that the line is actually good. Usually calling that flop bet, getting to showdown for free, and winning will not happen.


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