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Malendes
Joined: 03.04.2011

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $1.85 (37 bb)
SB: $5.03 (100.6 bb)
BB: $5 (100 bb)
UTG+1: $4.08 (81.6 bb)
UTG+2: $5.41 (108.2 bb)
MP1: $5.67 (113.4 bb)
MP2: $1.99 (39.8 bb)
MP3: $5 (100 bb)
Hero (CO): $14.22 (284.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q Q
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $0.15, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, BTN calls $0.40, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.27) 8 2 2 (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $0.60, BTN folds, UTG+2 raises to $2.40, Hero folds

Results:

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$2.47 pot ($0.10 rake)
Final Board: 8 2 2
BTN mucked and lost (-$0.40 net)
UTG+2 mucked and won $2.37 ($1.37 net)
Hero mucked Q Q and lost (-$1 net)

I probably should have bet like +0.20$ more on flop. But getting raised 4xbet, is there then anything to do? Doesnt really had that many hands on the villian, but I guess he can only have better hands than mine, since it is rare to see big bluffs at NL5.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Standard 3bet size is 3x original raise (0.45). Your size is 1bb smaller. In addition you cbet only less than 1/2 of the pot which is ridiculously small and gives your opponents good odds to play their draws. Something like 0,9 would have been better size on the flop.

Some very aggressive opponents might try to bluff you because your bet sizes look very weak. Vs unknown opponent your fold is good.


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CPallo
Joined: 12.04.2012

Hi,

Pre-flop: Any info on opponent? If he is tight it could be better to just flat this hand. I'm not sure if we can 3-bet/call this hand profitably from these positions.

As played, flop cbet is ok, though you could cbet like .70-.75. It's a 3-bet pot so one doesn't have to cbet 2/3 here and the board is quite dry tbh.

Without any info of his aggression or vpip/pfr I think this could be bet/fold. However, against a reg I think calling flop and calling blank turn could be better as you haven't hit this board that often and a good player could take advantage of this.

But without stats I think bet/fold is ok.


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Johnis
Joined: 23.07.2009

There are a lot of problems/mistakes with this hand in my opinion.

Firstly, you have to ask yourself why are u 3betting. Are you 3betting because you think he will continue (call or raise) to play with worse hands ? Are you 3betting because you think he will fold better hands ? It is pretty clear that he is not gonna fold AA, and folding KK preflop is rare i am sure.

So, you can probably conclude that if you 3b pre, you expect worse hands to continue playing. What range could he possibly play with ? Perhaps TT+, AK, but that depends on the player.

On the flop 822 with FD, there are quite a few possible overpairs for him, and some few flushdraws, if he is calling them OOP.

In my opinion, you can not bet/fold such a dry flop, as he can easily have a worse overpair than you. You should call the flop and let him keep the initiative. If he is bluffing or has a worse hand than yourse, he will likely bet again, while if you shove here, he will fold his bluffing hands.


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