[Closed] nl50 Rush - QQ - 3b pot

Hi, what would you do if villain 4bets pre? You would shove and go broke. So when you see safe flop you should be happy to bet bet get it in. If villain was set mining he is making mistake in the long run imo. And if hes traping AA, KK here hes making mistake also, because sure your 3b looks strong and you likely have a hand that you will valuetown yourself. But sometimes you will have AK and hes not getting enough value on low board and sometimes you will have QQ and the board will be A or K high - missing value again.
So in short im bet/calling turn and shoving river if needed.

Hi mrxLT,

Thanks for your response - it's helpful. In general I agree with you - we should basically be going broke without overcards in 3b pot with hand as strong as QQ.

Only point I want to make is this: we can't use mistake by villain to justify mistake by hero.

So, for example sometimes we see shortstackers set-mining. We know they make a mistake long term but, if we know - e.g. from reads - that they have a set we should be willing to fold (even though they made a mistake). In fact, if we find a way of avoiding paying them off, then the mistake they make is even bigger.

thought over it agin, what i wrote wasnt too good i think now ♦ ignore if u read ♦

lol @ geoelt.
I think you really don´t achieve diamond status if you don´t know anything about cash games :), so your posts are always welcome here

about the hand:
I would likely played the same way. Maybe also consider b/c turn, since I think he really hasn´t there a lot 9x hands (unless it is 99), so I´d be quite happy b/c turn
he isn´t really going to shove river too often TT and likely also not JJ, so it is question if he need that he has to turn smt like 55 into bluff if he even called that pf and now shoving river. Mostly it is for value and if you´re not unsure which hands player b/c pf then you can also c/c river consider you checked turn, so he can easily put you on AK and valuebet whatever he has.
If you bet then b/c is likely better than b/f. At least you gain some information how he plays his hands both pf and postflop

Ok, thanks. Was 99 this time.