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PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): 100 BB
BTN: 118 BB (VPIP: 15.36, PFR: 4.05, 3Bet Preflop: 0.39, Hands: 1,479)
SB: 160.5 BB (VPIP: 17.58, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 186)
BB: 106 BB (VPIP: 20.16, PFR: 17.71, 3Bet Preflop: 9.68, Hands: 368)
UTG: 117.5 BB (VPIP: 14.47, PFR: 6.29, 3Bet Preflop: 2.65, Hands: 2,327)
UTG+1: 98.5 BB (VPIP: 27.58, PFR: 4.39, 3Bet Preflop: 2.08, Hands: 711)
MP: 227.5 BB (VPIP: 46.67, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 61)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♣ Q♠

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, SB calls 3.5 BB, BB raises to 12 BB, Hero raises to 27.5 BB, fold, BB raises to 106 BB and is all-in, Hero ?

1st what should I do with his 3B? Is it okay to go broke or just flat here? He 3bets a lot. I'm having some problems with this type of players. How would you react with a 3b if you're OOP against this type?

The reason I ask is because I also had a hand earlier(77) in MP and got 3b by him from BU. I'm not sure how to react. I didn't call because I'll be OOP post-flop.

Thanks,


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Zanardi1
Joined: 04.01.2010

Actually, you will be IP, because you are in the CO and he'll be in the BB.

I would like to see how much are his restealing and his 3bet in BB stats. He 3bets almost 10% of the time, but this doesn't mean that he 3bets 10% from every position.

To answer your question, I'd flat and play postflop or I'll 4bet shove. By 4bet and allowing him to 5bet shove, you give him the chance to fold the hand and to shove only with KK+ and AK.

One last thing. Regarding your title: I don't think that we can have QQ suited :f_p:


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_Anonymous_

Yeah, I was asking a follow up question..

The reason I ask is because I also had a hand earlier(77) in MP and got 3b by him from BU. I'm not sure how to react. I didn't call because I'll be OOP post-flop.

The title was meant to be like that.. LOL!! That's why there's a big smile right at the end..

I normally 4B shove, but I thought I might just get called with KK+ and AK. So I thought of making it look a weak 4B thinking he might 5bet shove lighter.. I'll post his other stats later..


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VaskataBuci
Joined: 08.08.2011

We have 40% equity with QQ vs. AK, KK+ and after his shove we get 30% pot odds, so calling the shove after our 4bet is fine. If we have a plan going AI preflop vs. guy that looks like 3bet happy is fine imo.
With 77 I'm folding if I get 3bet and I'm OOP.


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Yeah, w/ the 77 I did fold to. Would you think limping with 77 is better when we have this Villain behind us? What about TT? 99-88? My plan against him is to just look for another table if I don't have a fish on my left. But if I do, I'm planning to fight back 4b shove w TT+ and 4b/fold with AJ-AQ in this kind of spots. I'm not sure if it's a good plan tho.


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GoOnCal1
Joined: 22.01.2015

Double suited is a more positive outlook :-)


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

You should look at villain's squeeze stat.
I would call here.
With 77 OOP I would fold. You can call 88+ if you are IP.


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jonnyZ
Joined: 24.05.2010

I dont understand why we should 4bet shove instead of just 4bet like hero did. If we shove he will end up calling with a tighter range than if we 4bet. He probably have a 5bet bluff range..Feels like the reasoning in this tread has been the other way around like he would shove over a 4bet tighter than he would call a shove?


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Here's his other stats:

Fold to Steal: 77
Squeeze: 7(2/30)
SB 3b is 0, but BB is 6/29 which is pretty small sample.


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livethelife7
Joined: 10.02.2009

In theory we should have a 4bet bluffing range here, so 4bet shoving is not correct. Because this is NL2 i don't mind 4bet shove directly. After you 4bet you have to call a shove. If he is only 5bet shoving KK+, you can better call here to play it postflop and don't change you're hand into a bluff.


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jonnyZ
Joined: 24.05.2010

If hes only shoving kk+ we should indeed have a 4bet bluffing range, even if its NL2 :)


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

Call because we can make two flushes. And also because we shouldn't really 4bet/fold QQ.


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