wrong timing?

Did I blunder here

Blunder is too strong but your massive overbet is definitely a mistake. You are basicly turning off your hand. You show so much strenght vs 2 players. As played i am gonna stack off on the turn. You block key hand. It's K♥:Q♥: so even up against higher str8 you are not completly dead.

I would check to the aggressor on the turn. If I would lead around 7bb seems big enough multi way.
As played I can't fold the 2nd nuts with the redraw.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Why overbet. You dont have the nuts or a draw to the nuts. And you're mutiway.

Originally posted by DecMate
Why overbet. You dont have the nuts or a draw to the nuts. And you're mutiway.

I thought I had the nuts at the time. I think what happened was that my mind removed KQ combos from the equation subconsciously and my index finger acted out of turn.

Originally posted by NapoleonBonaparte135

Did I blunder here

Blunder is too strong but your massive overbet is definitely a mistake. You are basicly turning off your hand. You show so much strenght vs 2 players. As played i am gonna stack off on the turn. You block key hand. It's K♥:Q♥: so even up against higher str8 you are not completly dead.

Is check raise is better? We saying the same thing then as the OB aren't we?

I know that the HJ is a reg who just sits on the sideline and watches. The BTN is from Poland(mean anything?).

Might be a whale and reg watching to take a note?

I wouldn't fold here. tp + fd or 2p or set. I think we good here most of the time, and when reg stays to watch it makes me think we are good almost all of the time imo.

Originally posted by jiffybag

Originally posted by NapoleonBonaparte135

Did I blunder here

Blunder is too strong but your massive overbet is definitely a mistake. You are basicly turning off your hand. You show so much strenght vs 2 players. As played i am gonna stack off on the turn. You block key hand. It's K♥:Q♥: so even up against higher str8 you are not completly dead.

Is check raise is better? We saying the same thing then as the OB aren't we?

I know that the HJ is a reg who just sits on the sideline and watches. The BTN is from Poland(mean anything?).

Might be a whale and reg watching to take a note?

I wouldn't fold here. tp + fd or 2p or set. I think we good here most of the time, and when reg stays to watch it makes me think we are good almost all of the time imo.

The only reason the reg stayed on the sideline to watch was because he had 6h5h which he showed after the hand was over. Let's say I made my flush on river, would I have gotten paid three ways? I HIGHLY doubt that.

Originally posted by Dr1fter808

Originally posted by jiffybag

Originally posted by NapoleonBonaparte135

Did I blunder here

Blunder is too strong but your massive overbet is definitely a mistake. You are basicly turning off your hand. You show so much strenght vs 2 players. As played i am gonna stack off on the turn. You block key hand. It's K♥:Q♥: so even up against higher str8 you are not completly dead.

Is check raise is better? We saying the same thing then as the OB aren't we?

I know that the HJ is a reg who just sits on the sideline and watches. The BTN is from Poland(mean anything?).

Might be a whale and reg watching to take a note?

I wouldn't fold here. tp + fd or 2p or set. I think we good here most of the time, and when reg stays to watch it makes me think we are good almost all of the time imo.

The only reason the reg stayed on the sideline to watch was because he had 6h5h which he showed after the hand was over. Let's say I made my flush on river, would I have gotten paid three ways? I HIGHLY doubt that.

So you missed?

I would have raised 7bb and waited no way you're folding that but the bet was too big with what you had

If you must know.

yea dont like the lead donk but thats been established. I dont mind a c/r turn. you block KQ which is nuts, you also have a redraw to the 3rd nut flush draw. then if he ships it i think you need to call off, and hope a heart doesnt come cause i be willing to place him on nut flush draw. IMO of course

Is check raise is better? We saying the same thing then as the OB aren't we?

Yep. That's right. But only if villian is on a big hand. Then OB or check/raise doesnt matter. Unless he has KQ we are going to take all his money. But how about bluffs, semi bluffs, maybe medium strenght hands like KJ,AJ? It's preferable to me to keep his entire range in the hand

Originally posted by Dr1fter808
I know that the HJ is a reg who just sits on the sideline and watches. The BTN is from Poland(mean anything?).

People from countries like Ukraine, Fascist Belarus, Nazi Russia or Poland are in 90% TAGs or NITs.

Lead on turn is nice exploit because BU should not bet on this card often. However I think overbet is just wrong size:
-your hand loses a lot of value if spade, pairing card or Q hits board. That is almost half of deck
-2x overbet is nice against fish, but regulars will fold a lot and I feel this sizing may cut your winnings. Also there is problem that you build huge pot and when bad card from above hits then what are you going to do? Check/fold?

Originally posted by EmiyaKiritsugu

Originally posted by Dr1fter808
I know that the HJ is a reg who just sits on the sideline and watches. The BTN is from Poland(mean anything?).

People from countries like Ukraine, Fascist Belarus, Nazi Russia or Poland are in 90% TAGs or NITs.

Lead on turn is nice exploit because BU should not bet on this card often. However I think overbet is just wrong size:
-your hand loses a lot of value if spade, pairing card or Q hits board. That is almost half of deck
-2x overbet is nice against fish, but regulars will fold a lot and I feel this sizing may cut your winnings. Also there is problem that you build huge pot and when bad card from above hits then what are you going to do? Check/fold?

Yeah, I'm starting to think so.

Fascist Belarus, Nazi Russia

Let's not turn this forum into a political one, please!

Originally posted by NapoleonBonaparte135

Fascist Belarus, Nazi Russia

Let's not turn this forum into a political one, please!

Oh, I didn't realize the spiced comments. lol