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kurrkabin
Joined: 12.10.2010

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $20(BB) Replayer
Hero ($450)
($550)

Dealt to Hero 8♦ 2♦

raises to $40, Hero raises to $100, calls $60

FLOP ($200) Q♣ 8♠ 5♥

Hero bets $80, calls $80

TURN ($360) Q♣ 8♠ 5♥ A♦

Hero bets $270 (AI), folds

Hero shows 8♦ 2♦

Hero wins $360

Villain is a very aggro reg. My idea is to 3bet the bottom of my flattin range and the top of my stack of range. This is my first 3bet, so hand doesn't matter too much imo.

However, do u shove turn and how standard this is? I think most of his range is middling hands, maybe some strongish Ax, but but rest I assume he 4bet bluffs or fold?


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Readless I don't like 3betting junk, I'd rather it exclusively for value until I have some idea of how he reacts.


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zilltine
Joined: 20.03.2010

Originally posted by kurrkabin

However, do u shove turn and how standard this is? I think most of his range is middling hands, maybe some strongish Ax, but but rest I assume he 4bet bluffs or fold?

3bet to t100 is super std with 82s. It 3bets better than Q2o.

I see a lot of flats from Axs and if he is agro enough its likely he is floating flop with BDFD. There is also huge amount of Qx in his range as well as 9T, J9, JT, 8x, few 5x. By shoving turn we fold out few 8x and give value to every other hand which beats us. If you think he can float you super wide then probably ch/c is best. If not, i prefer ch/f


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yoshiwa
Joined: 23.02.2009

Originally posted by zilltine

Originally posted by kurrkabin

However, do u shove turn and how standard this is? I think most of his range is middling hands, maybe some strongish Ax, but but rest I assume he 4bet bluffs or fold?

3bet to t100 is super std with 82s. It 3bets better than Q2o.

I see a lot of flats from Axs and if he is agro enough its likely he is floating flop with BDFD. There is also huge amount of Qx in his range as well as 9T, J9, JT, 8x, few 5x. By shoving turn we fold out few 8x and give value to every other hand which beats us. If you think he can float you super wide then probably ch/c is best. If not, i prefer ch/f

I disagree. We are short , and the shorter you get the more equity matters. This + Q gives a blocker to his shoving hands.

I like the idea 3betting btm of calling range , but i think 82s isn't one of the hands i'd situate there:)
Once we hit the F we can't fold ,and not cbetting the F would be suspicous because it's so dry , so there i agree.
Shoving the T isn't really nice because we won't get any value from worse .
Id prefer chc alot more.


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