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Hot $2.20 l QKo l SB push l Middle stages

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ggeshov
Joined: 25.12.2010
PokerStrategist

Hello,

Do you think that this was a correct shove or was I supposed to wait for a better spot? Doesnt feel like I should have waited considering that this is a Turbo tournament, and the blinds + antes made it 2.67bb in the pot.

PokerStars, $1.96 + $0.24 - Hold'em No Limit - 250/500 (65 ante) - 9 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG: 4,391 (9 bb)
UTG+1: 13,810 (28 bb)
MP: 6,329 (13 bb)
MP+1: 3,340 (7 bb)
LP: 2,395 (5 bb)
CO: 32,269 (65 bb)
BU: 7,735 (15 bb)
SB (Hero): 7,167 (14 bb)
BB: 29,806 (60 bb)

Pre-Flop: (1,335) Hero is SB with Q K
7 players fold, Hero raises to 7,102 (all-in), BB calls 6,602


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010
Oldschool Grinder

for analysing situations like this, the free holdem resources nash calculator is useful
Here is your hand in that tool:
https://www.holdemresources.net/nashicm?action=calculate&s1=4391&s2=13810&s3=6329&s4=3340&s5=2395&s6=32269&s7=7735&s8=7167&s9=29806&p1=50&p2=30&p3=20&sb=250&bb=500&ante=65

According to that tool, KQo is a solid shove.
However, since you didn't specify, I assumed that this was a single-table tournament, so I made the payouts based on that.
If that is incorrect, you can use the tool on your own and put the correct payout numbers in.


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ggeshov
Joined: 25.12.2010
PokerStrategist

Hello VorpalF2F,

Thanks for the answer. It was the Hot $2.20 on pokerstars where around the top 250 were getting paid and there were still like 1500 players still in the tournament. I am kind of a noob with all of the tools (I did mostly use Equilab and ICM trainer for 9m SNGs though). Not sure how, if possible at all, to use the one which you provided for the tournament I played in this case. From what I see, you can set the prize payouts only for the top 10 places. But even if you could set them for the top 250, not sure if its time worthy to fill in the % payout for each place?


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010
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No -- definitely not worthwhile (or even possible) to do that for so early in the tournament.

At that stage of the tournament, I'm going to guess that you can still play post-flop, but if you bet 3x that leaves you only 11 BB to play with if BB resteals (which I think is a sensible play for a 60BB stack at that point)

So if you're going to fold to a 3Bet, just fold pre.
If you're going to call a jam, jam now.

Really curious to hear what the real experts think though...


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008
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Seems like a standard push. ICM isn't much of a factor here and with the fast structure you need to take any +EV shoving spot i think.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007
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Either shove or limp-shove. As default I would be shoving.


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