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Joined: 29.10.2010

Homework # 8

Question 1: Post a hand for evaluation.

NL5: AA agianist a re-raise on turn

Question 2: Evaluate one of the hands submitted by other members.

Aa 073112

Question 3: Consider the following situation:

$100 NL Hold'em (9 handed)

Stacks & Stats:
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($100)
MP2 ($100)
Hero ($100)
CO ($100)
BU ($100)
SB ($100)
BB ($100) (18/15/3.7/23/732)[VPIP/PFR/AF/WTS/Hands]

Preflop: Hero is BU with 8 , 9
4 folds, Hero raises to $4.00, 3 folds, BB calls $4.00

Flop: ($8.50) 3 , 6 , 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5.50 BB calls $5.50

Turn: ($19.50) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero...

What action would you take, and why?

Here we have to bet. We can extract value from a SET or from a Ahx or Khx that could pay us. If he re-raises, than we have to go broke.

This is not a good spot to slowplay, with a check, because we have to protect our hand from another heart. So we have to bet here.
The only hand we are loosing is from a better flushdraw.

BONUS Question 4 (optional question): Consider the following situation:

$200 NL Hold'em (6 handed)

Stacks & Stats:
MP2 (Hero) ($327.95)
MP3 ($207.45)
CO ($415.55) (TAG)
BU ($373.60) (TAG)
SB ($200.00)
BB ($218.00)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7 , 8
Hero raises to $7, 1 folds, CO raises to $23, BU calls $23, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls $16

Flop: ($72) 7 , 8 , 8 (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BU bets $52, Hero calls, CO calls

Turn: ($228) K (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BU checks

River: ($228) Q (3 players)
Hero bets $110, CO raises to $340.55 (All-in), BU folds, Hero?

What factors and concepts that you have learned so far would you use in evaluating this situation? What would your action be?

The CO is a TAG player, so his bet on the flop shows a top of his range, maybe QQ+, AK.

The flop does not need prtection, so he might be slowplaying his overpair, but is strange he is not Cbetting this.

On the turn, probaly he checks, waiting for the bet of the BU, but he also ckecks, so on the river he tried to extract the value of his strong hand.
As we also showed weakness on the turn, he might make this move with all his initial range, so we need 25,36% of equity to call, and he have 75%. Our fullhouse only looses to KK and QQ.


Board: 7♣8♠8♦ K♦ Q♥
       Equity  Vencer  Empatar
MP2    75.00%  75.00%    0.00% { 8h7h }
MP3    25.00%  25.00%    0.00% { QQ+, AKs, AKo }

So it is an easy call.


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veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008

Good Job! Homework #8 Done!

About Question #3:
In this case, the right answer is quite obvious. Both AF and WTS speak in favor of a check behind for bluff induce. But your hand is too strong here, so you want to get it all-in on the turn. There are a lot of hands you still have to protect against, too. Playing for bluff induce or pot control would simply be too weak and dangerous.

About Question #4:
About preflop play I'd say that it's still doable while we even are a bit deeper. I expect the hero to play solid postflop play. So Calling is definitely fine here with having 2 opponents in the hand and getting great implied odds. But for more beginners it's definitely a very close spot while they ain't gonna be able to lay down weak hands.

As we have the information that CO is a TAG player. Therefore, we expect him to have a strong 3bet range. Unless we have some other information like he has a wide 3bet range. But while we don’t have that, we basically consider his range to be something QQ+, AK or sometimes even tighter.

So now you have to ask yourself what kind of hands would play like this on river? KK may slowplay like this. QQ definitely is as well in his range. AK/AA he wouldn’t play this way since he know himself as well that he isn’t going to get Called by worse hands. So basically it’s up to the nuts most often. You only beat bluff there and I don’t expect the opponent to bluff in this case unless we know the table dynamics better.

Best of Luck in The Exam!


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Joined: 29.10.2010

Well, That's it. I just finished the course and made the exam. I hope with sucess :)

Thanks for your time. It was very helpfull for me.


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Originally posted by Kony76
Well, That's it. I just finished the course and made the exam. I hope with sucess :)

Thanks for your time. It was very helpfull for me.

Congrats, as soon I will get your exam I will take a look. Most likely on Monday when PokerStrategy stuff comes to work. :)


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Good Job! Your exam is done and evaluated! Also you Passed! Congrats!

I would now advice to take a look at the No Limit Advanced Learning path. Which is located here: No Limit Advanced Learning Path. Although it's without any homework but it's still a path which will help you get the understanding of more advanced stuff. Although it may require higher ranks. Some may require even Gold status.

You are still welcome to use this thread for your progress and if you face any questions about your play/stats or anything you want to ask. Also don't hesitate to continue posting hands which I will be most likely evaluating.

About your exam:
You did take the exam really seriously and that's only good since the more seriously you take poker the more likely it will be that you invest enough time into to it to become a good poker player. I did really like the answers of yours. Although of course as most of the students you had also problems with the math tasks, needs still improvement. But well, it's more advanced part so I wouldn't really be worried about that! You did really great overall.

We most likely gonna continue evaluating your hands and of course your overall progress in this thread in future. We still have some leaks to fix.

In future we gonna concentrate more on your hands and try to fix some leaks which. Hopefully you gonna continue posting in the thread. We could take a look at stats and many different kind of things. Maybe even some mindset problem. :)

Do you have any questions about the exam?

Good Luck on the Tables and with the next learning Path. If you have any questions don't hesitate to hop in your Locker Room thread and ask or post your progress.


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Hi Veriz,

That's great news, I've passe the exam:)
It's also great to know that you liked my answers and the way I dedicate to it.

I think I said it before, I do not dedicate 100% to Poker (of course, it's too soon). I have a job, a wife and soon I will have a baby. I have also other hobbies, so I have to plan very weel my day to have time for everything.

For now I am managing it well, and I am "investing" a big part of the freetime to poker. I realy want to be a profitable player, and climb up the limits. My first target is to be able to get some extra-money with the Poker, like a part-time job, but better, because I do not see Poker as a job, because I like to play. I never play because I "have to". I only play if I want.

For sure I will go thru the advanced learning Path, and also I will use this trhread post all my questions.

It is very nice to have you helping me. I Learned a lot with your advices, and i hope to continue having them.

About my game, I feel that I have to improove a lot the post-flop game. For now I am profitable at NL5, but playing the simple Poker. I have a good hand, I bet. I do not have a good hand, I do not bet.
I fell that I am loosing value because of this.

I will post soon my stats here.
What else do you advice for me to post to help you have a better idea of how I play, and where are my mains leaks?

Another two question:
Should I star to post my hands to evaluate here?
How do I use the Beginners course badge?

Thanks a lot,


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Parabéns Kony76,

I hope to follow your steps and finish the course.

Good luck

Abraço


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Joined: 29.10.2010

Obrigado.

It is only a matter to motivating your self, of your will. If you want to learn and grow up as a poker player, you will make the course easily and get a lot of skils with him.

Are you Portuguese?

But anyway, here we should talk in English.

Abraço,


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Joined: 29.10.2010

Hi,

Yes, here its better to speak in english. I'm Portuguese and we do share the same forum on the Portuguese network.

I posted some hands there and saw some of yours to.

I play NL5 FR.

Abraço


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Originally posted by Paluzzo
Hi,

Yes, here its better to speak in english. I'm Portuguese and we do share the same forum on the Portuguese network.

I posted some hands there and saw some of yours to.

I play NL5 FR.

Abraço

Great.

I play NL5 also. I added you in the comunity.
We can share more information and talk to improove our game, what you think?

And in portuguese, hehe, it's easier. lol


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veriz
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What else do you advice for me to post to help you have a better idea of how I play, and where are my mains leaks?

I'd rather advice post stats from the HM2 reports tab, which would give better overview. As position stats, overall stats (Leak Buster ones for example).

Should I star to post my hands to evaluate here?

Theory into Locker room & hands into hand evaluation section. :)

How do I use the Beginners course badge?

It will be shiny badge on your signature soon, have told them to add it. Although I assume they have been a bit busy.

About your stats I'd say they are pretty decent, rather if you want a deeper analyze you have to get a lot more hands, at least 50k. Plus of course post also the Leak Buster - Overall, so at least I could get realistic stats which are more useful. Please could you do that?

So far it seems that you might have a leak in calling 3bet pots too much and you could be losing money there.


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I am going thru a bad run this month. I do not know what is happening.

Everything was Ok until the 1st week of August. After that...

Here is my overall graph

And here is the August graph. It seems a Mountain!!!!

What could be happening here?

Hope to be back to the "normal up line" soon :)


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Mikus8
Joined: 06.10.2011

did you seriously chose your nickname for that kony guy?


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Originally posted by Mikus8
did you seriously chose your nickname for that kony guy?

Of course not.
My nickname has something about 16 years. I only heard about that guy a few month ago.


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As I mentioned earlier it might be a problem that you have a leak in your 3bet-calling frequency. You may cool too loose and which may make you lose a lot money. I assume you are very often playing just fit/fold it them and which makes also tougher to play profitable. Therefore might be even more reasonable to 4bet/Fold instead or just fold it directly.

Also you could work on your aggression overall, you are pretty passive in average and seems like rather betting with made hand hands and the same goes for raising. Especially very passive on the river. Though it's not that huge problem, cause people don't adjust anyways on those stakes. :) But which might need to be taken an eye in the future.

You have a leak in your CBetting, you CB a lot on the flop but meanwhile give up very easily on the turn. I'd strongly recommend post CBetting pots into Hand Evaluation forums and fix your leaks.

You have a leak on your SB, you are stealing way too many hands from there. Why do you steal more hands being OOP than you do on the BTN? :) Do you think this makes sense? :P


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Originally posted by veriz
As I mentioned earlier it might be a problem that you have a leak in your 3bet-calling frequency. You may cool too loose and which may make you lose a lot money. I assume you are very often playing just fit/fold it them and which makes also tougher to play profitable. Therefore might be even more reasonable to 4bet/Fold instead or just fold it directly.

The problem is that I usualy only 4bet with premium hands, and that is bad.
How can I fix this? When should I 4bet (with hands that are not premium), and when should I fold? Is it any situatuon that the call is ok?

Originally posted by veriz
Also you could work on your aggression overall, you are pretty passive in average and seems like rather betting with made hand hands and the same goes for raising. Especially very passive on the river. Though it's not that huge problem, cause people don't adjust anyways on those stakes. :) But which might need to be taken an eye in the future.

Here I have a problem to play with medium strong made hands. Sometimes I don't realy know what to do. I think, that I have to work my "range reading". If I have a better idea of what the villian might have, I believe it will help me to play those kind of hands.

Originally posted by veriz
You have a leak in your CBetting, you CB a lot on the flop but meanwhile give up very easily on the turn. I'd strongly recommend post CBetting pots into Hand Evaluation forums and fix your leaks.

I will post some hands of Cbeting on the flop. Well, I usualy Cbet on the flop, and if I miss the turn, I give up. But I will have to fix it. I am not realy good on bluffing! ?(

Originally posted by veriz
You have a leak on your SB, you are stealing way too many hands from there. Why do you steal more hands being OOP than you do on the BTN? :) Do you think this makes sense? :P

This leak I had already found it, and I am trying to fix it.
The (stupid) reason of doing this, was a kind of psycological thing, like "there is only 1 player left, so let's try to steal", wihtou thinking on the flop if I get called. ;(


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How can I fix this? When should I 4bet (with hands that are not premium), and when should I fold? Is it any situatuon that the call is ok?

Shouldn't worry much about that, rather focus on 4betting mainly for value and if you start to understand the game more you can also loosen up your range. It's difficult to say when and why to 4bet, it's always "DEPENDS".

Otherwise seems that you are doing still good, at least you trying to figure out what you doing wrong, which should be the main way to improve your game.


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