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Mathematics in poker - I. Combinatorics - Basic of Basics!

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tokyoaces
Joined: 01.04.2009

Originally posted by Shevtshenko
There's a lot of things in poker that are possible to be solved using math.

Yup! That's why math is great to use. The greatest thing about math is anyone can apply mathematical concepts without being a mathematician. We can all calculate pot odds even though we can't derive their proof.


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:rolleyes:I THINK POKER IT S A PSYCHOLOGICAL GAME THAT DERIVES FROM THE MATH ASPECT OF IT FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU PLAY LOW STAKES WITH A GUY AND SEE HIS PATTERNS HE 90 PERCENT CALLS WITH LOW PAIRS NEVER RAISES 2 TIMES WITH IT, ON HIGHER STAKES WHEN HE LL PLAY WITH YOU HE WILL ADAPT AND MAKE THE OPPOSITE WITH HIS LOW PAIRS, ALSO IF HE KNOWS THAT YOU KNOW THIS AND HE SAWED YOU MAKING GOOD FOLDS TO ADAPTIVE PLAYS HE COULD MAKE CRAZY BLUFFS IF HE DOES NOT BLUFF OFTEN AND STEAL A LOT OF MONEY BECAUSE ON HIGH STAKES MONEY HAS A LOT OF PSY VALUE, THAT S WHY GAMBLERS MAKE CRAZY ALL IN BLUFFS _confused:
IF YOU TRY TO MAKE ALL IN BLUFFS = I DID IT LIKE A FOOL= ON LOWER LIMITS THE PLAYERS WILL RARELY FOLD BECAUSE HERE MONEY HAS LITTLE PSY VALUE AND THEY CAN AFFORD LOSING
WHAT DID I TRIED ONCE AT NL10? I RAISED IN LATE POSITION WITH 23 OFF OVER A RAISE THEN ANOTHER RAISE ABOVE ME AND I CALLED, THE POT WAS KINDA BIG AND THE PLAYER FIRST TO ACT BET A SMALL PERCENT OF THE POT AND I CALLED ON A FLOP WITH AN ACE THAT I DID NOT HIT, EVEN IF HE BET SMALL THE TURN AND I SMELLED WEAKNESS, THE TURN WAS A KING THE MONEY HAD PSY EFFECT ON ME AND I DECIDED NOT TO BLUFF SINCE IT WAS HALF OF MY PLAYING STACK, HE LATER TOLD ME THAT HE HAD QQ, AND I THINK IT IS TRUE THE WAY HE PLAYED IT AND I MADE THEN A HUGE MISTAKE SINCE I COULD NOT WIN THE POT


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AND FOLDED BECAUSE OF THE PSY ASPECT OF THE MONEY


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009

Originally posted by fishnumber1
:rolleyes:I THINK POKER IT S A PSYCHOLOGICAL GAME THAT DERIVES FROM THE MATH ASPECT OF IT FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU PLAY LOW STAKES WITH A GUY AND SEE HIS PATTERNS HE 90 PERCENT CALLS WITH LOW PAIRS NEVER RAISES 2 TIMES WITH IT, ON HIGHER STAKES WHEN HE LL PLAY WITH YOU HE WILL ADAPT AND MAKE THE OPPOSITE WITH HIS LOW PAIRS, ALSO IF HE KNOWS THAT YOU KNOW THIS AND HE SAWED YOU MAKING GOOD FOLDS TO ADAPTIVE PLAYS HE COULD MAKE CRAZY BLUFFS IF HE DOES NOT BLUFF OFTEN AND STEAL A LOT OF MONEY BECAUSE ON HIGH STAKES MONEY HAS A LOT OF PSY VALUE, THAT S WHY GAMBLERS MAKE CRAZY ALL IN BLUFFS _confused:
IF YOU TRY TO MAKE ALL IN BLUFFS = I DID IT LIKE A FOOL= ON LOWER LIMITS THE PLAYERS WILL RARELY FOLD BECAUSE HERE MONEY HAS LITTLE PSY VALUE AND THEY CAN AFFORD LOSING
WHAT DID I TRIED ONCE AT NL10? I RAISED IN LATE POSITION WITH 23 OFF OVER A RAISE THEN ANOTHER RAISE ABOVE ME AND I CALLED, THE POT WAS KINDA BIG AND THE PLAYER FIRST TO ACT BET A SMALL PERCENT OF THE POT AND I CALLED ON A FLOP WITH AN ACE THAT I DID NOT HIT, EVEN IF HE BET SMALL THE TURN AND I SMELLED WEAKNESS, THE TURN WAS A KING THE MONEY HAD PSY EFFECT ON ME AND I DECIDED NOT TO BLUFF SINCE IT WAS HALF OF MY PLAYING STACK, HE LATER TOLD ME THAT HE HAD QQ, AND I THINK IT IS TRUE THE WAY HE PLAYED IT AND I MADE THEN A HUGE MISTAKE SINCE I COULD NOT WIN THE POT


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:O for a 44 year OLD you are an IDIOT


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making FUN like you are some kind of POKER PRODIGY

don t worry life is FUN and you are a JOKE


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caps lock


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BOBOsvk
Joined: 14.02.2010

Originally posted by jbpatzer

Originally posted by fishnumber1
:rolleyes:I THINK POKER IT S A PSYCHOLOGICAL GAME THAT DERIVES FROM THE MATH ASPECT OF IT FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU PLAY LOW STAKES WITH A GUY AND SEE HIS PATTERNS HE 90 PERCENT CALLS WITH LOW PAIRS NEVER RAISES 2 TIMES WITH IT, ON HIGHER STAKES WHEN HE LL PLAY WITH YOU HE WILL ADAPT AND MAKE THE OPPOSITE WITH HIS LOW PAIRS, ALSO IF HE KNOWS THAT YOU KNOW THIS AND HE SAWED YOU MAKING GOOD FOLDS TO ADAPTIVE PLAYS HE COULD MAKE CRAZY BLUFFS IF HE DOES NOT BLUFF OFTEN AND STEAL A LOT OF MONEY BECAUSE ON HIGH STAKES MONEY HAS A LOT OF PSY VALUE, THAT S WHY GAMBLERS MAKE CRAZY ALL IN BLUFFS _confused:
IF YOU TRY TO MAKE ALL IN BLUFFS = I DID IT LIKE A FOOL= ON LOWER LIMITS THE PLAYERS WILL RARELY FOLD BECAUSE HERE MONEY HAS LITTLE PSY VALUE AND THEY CAN AFFORD LOSING
WHAT DID I TRIED ONCE AT NL10? I RAISED IN LATE POSITION WITH 23 OFF OVER A RAISE THEN ANOTHER RAISE ABOVE ME AND I CALLED, THE POT WAS KINDA BIG AND THE PLAYER FIRST TO ACT BET A SMALL PERCENT OF THE POT AND I CALLED ON A FLOP WITH AN ACE THAT I DID NOT HIT, EVEN IF HE BET SMALL THE TURN AND I SMELLED WEAKNESS, THE TURN WAS A KING THE MONEY HAD PSY EFFECT ON ME AND I DECIDED NOT TO BLUFF SINCE IT WAS HALF OF MY PLAYING STACK, HE LATER TOLD ME THAT HE HAD QQ, AND I THINK IT IS TRUE THE WAY HE PLAYED IT AND I MADE THEN A HUGE MISTAKE SINCE I COULD NOT WIN THE POT

NOOO ! You gave him a hint! He was holding "shift" all the time when writing that post ...


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009

Originally posted by fishnumber1
:O for a 44 year OLD you are an IDIOT

Originally posted by fishnumber1
making FUN like you are some kind of POKER PRODIGY

don t worry life is FUN and you are a JOKE

Yay! I've never been flamed for real before. And I lost a year. The only person who ever calls me an idiot, oh I mean an IDIOT, is number two son, and he gets a clip round the ear. Can we carry on with this? Or do I have to be a POKER PRODIGY to poke a bit of FUN? Will maths prodigy (lower case) do? Or are there 'Care in the Community' issues that I need to be sensitive to? Waiboy, help me out here.


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it does not matter that i was holding cApS LOck it bother s me
FOOLS[/FONT] that have to much time to POST :rolleyes: JOKES


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Waiboy
Joined: 18.09.2008

Folks, if we could stop the trolling, and keep more on topic - this looks like a worthy thread for those learning poker basics (as it says on the label!).

Please keep plaudits or criticisms on topic and above board.


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BOBOsvk
Joined: 14.02.2010

insta banana


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I HOPE we DON T carry out this BATTLE jbatzer

ANYMORE


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HEY BOBO you say it is a pussy ass grind will you like to show me the other way around

I will LIKE to see you play and a nickname from you i will really appreciate it
THANK YOU


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Waiboy
Joined: 18.09.2008

Hi fishnumber1.

Please stop the flaming and thread derailment as requested.

Many thanks.


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009

Originally posted by fishnumber1
I HOPE we DON T carry out this BATTLE jbatzer

ANYMORE

OOOOOK NP. I lost the thread of this thread anyway.


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pleno1
Joined: 19.11.2010

Hey guys,

Come on ey? This has the potential to be a great thread and if everybody spends time reading/contributing its going to be alot more beneficial and time rewarding than trolling/arguing.

Mathematics is something people have alot of trouble with so I would really love this thread to get back on track please :)

Thanks,
Patrick


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KillerFishes
Joined: 11.07.2010

Thanks mods :)

and guys I appreciate your interest in this topic :f_cool: However, I hoped we will be able to create kind of discussion or something :) As I see that's not quite possible

Still thanks for you time and ... you can check my second topic about Ranges and maybe you can clarify a lot of things there and improve your game!


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m3ta
Joined: 01.04.2009

We all know about blockers in the KQ example but what about reverse blockers,
we can assume that villian knows about blockers too so therefore our blockers do reduce the combos of his blocker hands too ;) and therfore he was also less like to bluff 3 ebt in the first place ;)


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doctorkgb
Joined: 01.04.2009

Originally posted by fishnumber1
:O for a 44 year OLD you are an IDIOT

miserable


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