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btw withdrawed today from all rooms and sayed bye to online poker. Made good profit but you know tired to be fooled by those cheaters.

You say that you made a good profit but are still whining!!!
You understand that AA statistically losses to underpair one in every five time? This doesn't work by I must win 4 before I can loose one, it just means that you have a 20% to loose, so if you win 4 small pots with AA then loose a huge one with AA, u will immediately think its rigged.
I often think this game is super unfair but wasting time on pointless threads is useless!
How many games have u played on pokerstars serously tell us ur screenname.
You need to have played at least 10'k games before you whine!


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staktas
Joined: 28.03.2011
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This game is unfair? How so?


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Originally posted by staktas
This game is unfair? How so?

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Dunno if i was supposed to reply to this message probably rhetorical anyway feel like making a story :)

Scenario:

We have finally made the WSOP final table which guarantees you a min of $1 mirrion and first place taken a whopping $8 mirrion with prize jumps of $1mirrion per place.

So you are 2nd in chips, you and the chip leader are way out in front and both have over 80BB stacks, 3rd-9th place have 40BB and less.

You look down at rockets, to cut a long story short, you are sent all in by the chip leader, instantly u say call and gently place your cards face up. Chipleader shows KK, you say nothing.

Really need this hand to hold up now more than ever! All the way you hold until the river obv brings a K. As quick as that you are sent to the rail with nothing left to do. " Chipleader says gg Sir, UL! "
As much as we are wanting to rip his throat out, we have to be as professional about it as possible and say nh.

This seems to happen so often in poker but with me obv its for way less amounts of money but the situation is similiar.


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staktas
Joined: 28.03.2011
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No, it wasn't retorical.

Scenario:

You just got promotion at the job you love. You were planning to propose for your girlfriend, and you feel that this is THE day. Life is better than it ever was. Everything's going so perfect. And when crossing street, some crazy blonde who mixed accelerator and brakes, hits you of. You smash your head to ground and die.

Life is unfair?

Few post ago, you said that it's true, that you will loose 20% of time with AA against lower pp, and when it happens you say that poker is unfair?


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Originally posted by staktas
No, it wasn't retorical.

Scenario:

You just got promotion at the job you love. You were planning to propose for your girlfriend, and you feel that this is THE day. Life is better than it ever was. Everything's going so perfect. And when crossing street, some crazy blonde who mixed accelerator and brakes, hits you of. You smash your head to ground and die.

Life is unfair?

Few post ago, you said that it's true, that you will loose 20% of time with AA against lower pp, and when it happens you say that poker is unfair?

Life has its up and downs, just like poker.

So as in poker, we will loose 20 % of the time with AA, when we do, we must just put that in the "got ul" catagory, and keep the solid mind of, "il win the the long run, I made the right play."

In life we will also have our days were things go well and others where they just suck. Gettin hit by a blonde mixing up her brake with accelator, hittin you, then you die on the first day of your dream job. Doh this would have to go in the ul catagory.


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staktas
Joined: 28.03.2011
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Ok, but if we KNOW that it will happen how is that unfair?


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I think I meant to say it feels unfair sometimes, should of rather said can be unlucky instead of can be unfair?


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staktas
Joined: 28.03.2011
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I think it's best to say that it's poker. And if you're playing poker you have to be able to deal with it too.


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I think I get u now! Like unlucky shouldnt even exist!

If we know this is going to happen 20% 33% 40% of the time and it does, it should just be classed as a standard game of poker.
Makes alot of sense and I think it may help me to overcome tilt even further. Ty for this sir! _biggrin:


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staktas
Joined: 28.03.2011
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Exactly! no problem ;)


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Originally posted by staktas
Ok, but if we KNOW that it will happen how is that unfair?

THIS :)

Awesome way to put it + 1 sir :f_thumbsup: :f_thumbsup:


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M1rCea
Joined: 06.07.2010
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Poker isn't so rigged when you're the one sucking out, is it?


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Vygantas82
Joined: 02.04.2010
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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
SB ($10.06)
Hero ($9.80)
UTG ($11)
UTG+1 ($12.49)
UTG+2 ($4.39)
MP1 ($10.25)
MP2 ($10.01)
CO ($10.11)
BTN ($10.69)

Dealt to Hero 2♥ A♦

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.90, SB calls $0.60

FLOP ($1.80) 3♦ 6♣ 5♦

SB checks, Hero checks

TURN ($1.80) 3♦ 6♣ 5♦ 4♥

SB bets $1.20, Hero raises to $2.70, SB raises to $6.35, Hero raises to $8.90 (AI), SB calls $2.55

RIVER ($19.60) 3♦ 6♣ 5♦ 4♥ 4♦

SB shows A♥ 7♥
(Pre 65%, Flop 83.3%, Turn 96.6%)

Hero shows 2♥ A♦
(Pre 35%, Flop 16.7%, Turn 3.4%)

SB wins $18.72

conclusion: pokerstars - worse then cancer


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staktas
Joined: 28.03.2011
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Srlsly? Die then...


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Krishjanis
Joined: 04.01.2010
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Originally posted by Vygantas82

Spoiler

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
SB ($10.06)
Hero ($9.80)
UTG ($11)
UTG+1 ($12.49)
UTG+2 ($4.39)
MP1 ($10.25)
MP2 ($10.01)
CO ($10.11)
BTN ($10.69)

Dealt to Hero 2♥ A♦

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.90, SB calls $0.60

FLOP ($1.80) 3♦ 6♣ 5♦

SB checks, Hero checks

TURN ($1.80) 3♦ 6♣ 5♦ 4♥

SB bets $1.20, Hero raises to $2.70, SB raises to $6.35, Hero raises to $8.90 (AI), SB calls $2.55

RIVER ($19.60) 3♦ 6♣ 5♦ 4♥ 4♦

SB shows A♥ 7♥
(Pre 65%, Flop 83.3%, Turn 96.6%)

Hero shows 2♥ A♦
(Pre 35%, Flop 16.7%, Turn 3.4%)

SB wins $18.72

conclusion: pokerstars - worse then cancer

than*


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Vygantas82
Joined: 02.04.2010
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btw pocket aces wins but like always wins in pokerstars way:

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
SB ($5.47)
Hero ($9.85)
UTG ($15.69)
UTG+1 ($9.60)
UTG+2 ($18.52)
MP1 ($5.63)
MP2 ($13)
CO ($10.82)
BTN ($22.98)

Dealt to Hero Q♠ T♥

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.20

FLOP ($0.60) 9♣ 2♠ T♠

SB bets $0.42, Hero calls $0.42

TURN ($1.44) 9♣ 2♠ T♠ Q♥

SB bets $1.03, Hero raises to $2.40, SB raises to $4.75 (AI), Hero calls $2.35

RIVER ($10.94) 9♣ 2♠ T♠ Q♥ 2♥

SB shows A♠ A♣
(Pre 85%, Flop 78.6%, Turn 18.2%)

Hero shows Q♠ T♥
(Pre 15%, Flop 21.4%, Turn 81.8%)

SB wins $10.45


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Originally posted by Vygantas82
btw pocket aces wins but like always wins in pokerstars way:

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
SB ($5.47)
Hero ($9.85)
UTG ($15.69)
UTG+1 ($9.60)
UTG+2 ($18.52)
MP1 ($5.63)
MP2 ($13)
CO ($10.82)
BTN ($22.98)

Dealt to Hero Q♠ T♥

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.20

FLOP ($0.60) 9♣ 2♠ T♠

SB bets $0.42, Hero calls $0.42

TURN ($1.44) 9♣ 2♠ T♠ Q♥

SB bets $1.03, Hero raises to $2.40, SB raises to $4.75 (AI), Hero calls $2.35

RIVER ($10.94) 9♣ 2♠ T♠ Q♥ 2♥

SB shows A♠ A♣
(Pre 85%, Flop 78.6%, Turn 18.2%)

Hero shows Q♠ T♥
(Pre 15%, Flop 21.4%, Turn 81.8%)

SB wins $10.45

yeah cos nobody ever hits there 8 outer on the river on any other site......


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staktas
Joined: 28.03.2011
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Originally posted by Vygantas82
btw pocket aces wins but like always wins in pokerstars way:

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
SB ($5.47)
Hero ($9.85)
UTG ($15.69)
UTG+1 ($9.60)
UTG+2 ($18.52)
MP1 ($5.63)
MP2 ($13)
CO ($10.82)
BTN ($22.98)

Dealt to Hero Q♠ T♥

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.20

FLOP ($0.60) 9♣ 2♠ T♠

SB bets $0.42, Hero calls $0.42

TURN ($1.44) 9♣ 2♠ T♠ Q♥

SB bets $1.03, Hero raises to $2.40, SB raises to $4.75 (AI), Hero calls $2.35

RIVER ($10.94) 9♣ 2♠ T♠ Q♥ 2♥

SB shows A♠ A♣
(Pre 85%, Flop 78.6%, Turn 18.2%)

Hero shows Q♠ T♥
(Pre 15%, Flop 21.4%, Turn 81.8%)

SB wins $10.45

You know what? You are officially most annoying lithuanian poker player (if you can even be called poker player) for me. Even managed to pass Guoga.....


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OMG you were right all along..

Pokerstars is rigged, but in your favour. I am going to withdraw my funds right now. Thank you for continually to post in this thread you have been a real help.

:rage:


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Vygantas82
Joined: 02.04.2010
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You know what? You are officially most annoying lithuanian poker player (if you can even be called poker player) for me.

And who are you that i should care? btw FU and FU to your Irish boyfriend


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