Originally posted by William340
I know I am late to the party, but I always interpreted "not being results oriented" differently.
I looked at it on more of a hand by hand or even decision by decision basis.
did you make the right play given the information available.
if "yes", then you are playing well, even if the immediate result was bad.
(say the fish sucked out, or the LAGtard was at the top of his range).
if "no", then you are playing poorly, even if you are winning.
(you suck out after getting in way behind, or your poorly conceived bluff somehow works)
in this case there was a good result, but your play was bad.I never thought that it could/should be interpreted as not caring about whether you won or lost (overall) in the long term.
I'll think about it before, but I'm fairly certain I'm right and you're wrong.
This makes sense.
I haven't played much this month, actually, but I'll pay attention.
Hand by hand I can pretty much tell when I've made a playing mistake, or just got unlucky. Most of the hands I post for evaluation are those where I win, but am worried I played badly.
I've been thinking about this for some time.
There has to be something you love about poker, a few moves, a few plays, some awesome techniques etc. Many people get immense satisfaction from slowplaying, some people love making big bluffs and feel good when they work, some love their post flop game and want to keep getting better while some are really into being very aggressive pre-flop they love to squeeze, 4-Bet bluff etc.
The part about poker I love the most is hand reading. If I can sucessfully put someone on a range and make a good estimate and play the rest of the hand to perfection and at showdown if I discover I put him on the right range and sometimes down to the exact same cards I feel great. Sometimes this makes me win big pots and lose pots much smaller than I would have otherwise had I put him on the wrong range.
If I start focusing on this, as it gives me great pleasure to play this way, a losing session perhaps shouldn't bother me if I was reading well and making the right moves.
In a nutshell what i'm trying to say is all of us love something or the other about poker except the money that gives us satisfaction and if we start to depend on that maybe profits and losses won't affect us that much and eventually we'll start loving the game and our play and focus more on getting better.
Except purely for the journey's sake, I can't see the point in catching a train and being unconcerned with where it's headed.
Originally posted by gadget51
Except purely for the journey's sake, I can't see the point in catching a train and being unconcerned with where it's headed.
Think of it this way instead, 2 people have the same job, 1 of them is indifferent and does it only for the money, the other one actually likes his job. Who do you think will perform better and rise up sooner?
There are other reasons than money that we like to play poker, if we can learn to like them and actually start to enjoy it a lot of the problems faced like stress, depression etc. could go away.
Don't be unconcerned about the destination, you can either enjoy the journey or you can't. There isn't one destination, there are multiple destinations we could end at one of them depending how we perform during the journey.
Technically speaking this journey has no end, I sure hope not.