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cekpirus88
Joined: 16.06.2011

Hi I was wondering if I am ready to go to the next level, I am playing NL 10, and since September when I started to watch videos and read some articles I guess I improved my game, here are some graphs. In one poker room, I play very profitable, the first one on the second one, I am losing a bit. And you can see the sample size of the hands it is similar. In the first poker room, I am winning 8-9 bb per 100 and the other loosing 1-2 per 100.
What do you suggest? which bankroll do you suggest to have to start NL25 anyway?How can I attach the graphs without you need to click on the link? thanks


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cekpirus88
Joined: 16.06.2011
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It's very hard to say wether your playing perfect or not, but just by judging these graphs I believe you wouldn't make it on 25nl, or you might be able to make a healthy profit with rakeback, who knows?

Add me on friends so I can give my skype, and if you want I can watch you play for a while and give advice and we can fix your major leaks, if there are any big ones. 100% free no catch


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vuciitis
Joined: 19.02.2011

emm both session screen pictures showed positive EV so i dont think u have to worry about NOT being a winning player... and about different rooms- rooms may have different rake in same stakes, that can explain cople bb/100 up or down. There have been plenty of really good topics here on forum with analysis for different rooms and stakes. just search for it and u might find somthing helpfull ;)


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cekpirus88
Joined: 16.06.2011

So how much money do I need in my account to move on NL25?


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vuciitis
Joined: 19.02.2011

i would suggest 100BI up and 75BI down BR management.
so, 2,5k to take a shot... but really it depends what strategy do u play. Tons of ideas here on forum :)


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cekpirus88
Joined: 16.06.2011

If I run good, I can make 3$ per hour, but I will say 2$ . So now I have 600$ more or less, I need to play at least 300 hours on this limit even if I win let s say 4-5 bb per hour?


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yankomania
Joined: 07.10.2010

At the second graph your play looks more swingy than on first, which means that your'e playing more agressive. And there could be many reasons for that, opponent reads against who you a bit overplay your hands or even poker rooms software. But that's just my opinion. At those stakes I would suggest to keep brm on 30-40BI, if you're multitabler than more, 100 is the best.

Best of luck at the tables,

yankomania :f_biggrin:


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OZSA
Joined: 18.05.2009

pokerstars has alot better players than party or any other site, so its best to avoid stars for you. on party you can move to nl25 easily with 25-30BI, just dont play more than 10 tables, play like 8 untill you get hands from players and you got used to the limit, I'd move back to NL10 at 300$. key is the ability to move back down, you dont need 100BI for cash games.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by cekpirus88
How can I attach the graphs without you need to click on the link?

Follow these directions, and it should work.

To post your graph or other image
:diamond:1. Save the image or graph somewhere in your computer
:diamond:2. upload to a free image hosting service (like imgur.com, imageshack.com, etc.)
:diamond:3. in that image hosting service, copy the link which says for posting in forums
:diamond:4. Paste link into your forum post. If it shows as a URL (like yours do) then, click the "Insert Image" button from the row of buttons at the top of the message window, and paste the same URL into the message box that pops up.
:diamond:5. Done!

You can practice with some of the links in your posts.
Click the "Edit Post" button, highlight one of the URLs, then


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nefarious26
Joined: 02.11.2008

yeah i would take a shot if i was you, dont be 100 bi bankroll nit lol,

for example try playing 4 tables so 2 at current level and 2 at next level and see how you go, or 2 and 6 depending


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cekpirus88
Joined: 16.06.2011

Pokerstrarts is only a waste of money these are 2 hands for example that I have seen only on pokerstars ne called with 5,6 incredible my patience has limits.

€0.05/€0.10 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (€8.76) 88bb
UTG+1 (€5.07) 51bb
MP1 (€18.73) 187bb
MP2 (€10.63) 106bb
MP3 (€10.74) 107bb
CO (€10) 100bb
BTN (€29.03) 290bb
SB (€26.58) 266bb
cekpirus88 (BB) (€11.85) 119bb

Pre-Flop: (€0.25, 9 players) cekpirus88 is BB K♣ K♠
[CO posts €0.10]
UTG calls €0.10, UTG+1 calls €0.10, 2 folds, MP3 calls €0.10, CO checks, BTN calls €0.10, 1 fold, cekpirus88 raises to €1.10, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, BTN calls €1

Flop: 6♦ 2♠ J♣ (€2.65, 2 players)
cekpirus88 bets €1.80, BTN calls €1.80

Turn: 5♥ (€6.25, 2 players)
cekpirus88 bets €3.60, BTN goes all-in €26.13, cekpirus88 goes all-in €5.35

River: A♣ (€24.15, 2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: €24.15
cekpirus88 shows a pair of Kings
K♣ K♠
BTN shows two pair, Sixes and Fives
6♠ 5♠

BTN wins €40.01 (net +€10.98)

cekpirus88 lost €11.85
UTG lost €0.10
UTG+1 lost €0.10
MP3 lost €0.10
CO lost €0.10

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€0.05/€0.10 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
8 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (€10.48) 105bb
UTG+1 (€6.74) 67bb
MP1 (€11.56) 116bb
MP2 (€11.76) 118bb
CO (€26.88) 269bb
cekpirus88 (BTN) (€10.47) 105bb
SB (€9.42) 94bb
BB (€17.51) 175bb

Pre-Flop: (€0.15, 8 players) cekpirus88 is BTN 6♦ 6♣
1 fold, UTG+1 calls €0.10, 1 fold, MP2 calls €0.10, 1 fold, cekpirus88 raises to €0.30, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls €0.20, MP2 raises to €0.50, cekpirus88 calls €0.20, UTG+1 calls €0.20

Flop: J♠ J♣ 6♠ (€1.65, 3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, cekpirus88 bets €0.80, UTG+1 calls €0.80, MP2 calls €0.80

Turn: Q♦ (€4.05, 3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, cekpirus88 bets €1.80, UTG+1 raises to €3.60, MP2 calls €3.60, cekpirus88 raises to €6, UTG+1 goes all-in €1.84, MP2 goes all-in €10.46, cekpirus88 goes all-in €3.17

River: 8♣ (€27.83, 3 players, 3 all-in)

Final Pot: €27.83
cekpirus88 shows a full house, Sixes full of Jacks
6♦ 6♣
UTG+1 shows a full house, Jacks full of Eights
J♥ 8♥
MP2 shows a full house, Queens full of Jacks
Q♣ Q♥

MP2 wins €27.59 (net +€15.83)

cekpirus88 lost €10.47
UTG+1 lost €6.74

GOODBYE POKERSTARS!!! Fra other people


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cekpirus88
Joined: 16.06.2011

why in a poker room you are a winning player and in the other they make everything fro you not to win.... pokerstars F__K.


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