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[Closed] Is this _ever_ a fold...?

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carebax
Joined: 04.03.2007

Button ($1476.80)
Hero ($536.00)
BB ($114.00)
UTG ($1032.96)
UTG+1 ($400.00) decent tag
CO ($397.00)

Dealt to Hero: 8 :club: 8 :heart:

Preflop: , 1 fold, UTG+1 raises to 14.00, 1 fold, Button calls 14.00, Hero calls 12.00, BB calls 10.00.

Flop (56.00) 8 :diamond: 3 :heart: K :club:
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Button checks.

Turn (56.00) J :diamond:
Hero checks, BB bets 16.00, UTG+1 raises to 52.00, 1 fold, Hero raises to 132.00, 1 fold, UTG+1 moves all-in for 386.00, Hero calls 254.00.

River (896.00) 9 :heart:

Do you like a squeeze more pre-flop or is flatting this (once in a while) ok?

Can I ever fold turn...? Think his range is polarized to KK/JJ/33, especially after the shove, and I dont see him do this with AdQd and Td9d (dont think this hand is in his UTG+1 range). I also think he cbets flop with made hands allthough it's dry as f*ck, especially 33 for some reason I tend to think he bets this more often than for example KK.

If Hero has 33, is turn a (more easy) fold?


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preflop I think both squeezing and flatting are good if you balance them like you say

On the turn you can be sure UTG+1 has a set once he 4bet-shoves, the only other hand he could be doing that is QTdd, but maybe its not in his UTG+1 opening range, so i'd lean towards a set. I don't think this is 33 because he would bet that flop 4way for sure. The only hands that become possible are KK and JJ (which would both make sense with his flop check)

So while playing I would snap-call, but after analyzing I would cryfold .

Hero having 33 or 88 doesn't change much imo, because villain would have bet the flop with 88 or 33

tough one


dont know what reads you have on him but you can put him on small range of hands
Ks / Js / As or AK maybe , being UTG would not put him on KJ or Q10 and reraising must rule out flush draw

looks like set vs set , just one of those sick hands where you got to call


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

300BB deep i think i'd start considering folding bottom set ;).

probably third set here, though, come to think of it.. but 100BB, hells no!


Thorsten77
Joined: 28.05.2006

Originally posted by chenny8888
300BB deep i think i'd start considering folding bottom set ;).

probably third set here, though, come to think of it.. but 100BB, hells no!

+1


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