11$r FT

hey

if you didnt 4bet preflop, since the table is weak etc, I'd just fold turn. it's not a clear situation at all, even 4bet/broke pre is much clearer than this. Here we have 3rd pair, and 2nd nut fd, so I think it's an easy fold. We are beaten by a significant amount of hands, are pretty much drawing dead againt AhK,AhQ, which he plays the same way. I don't think we can ever make fold a better hand here by pushing. We'd raise basically all of our valuehands on this flop, and our FDs are basically combo draws which I'd raise as well. SO I cannot really rep too much.

If you have notes about him, that he's capable of crazy bluffs, and his w$sd is pretty low you could consider calling him on the turn, but still, I'd fold and keep my okay stack if the table's weak.

Hi,

You have gutshot+flushdraw+J is likely good. Once I call flop, I would not fold turn.
Against his wide 3-bet I would prefer 4-bet/calling JJ.

best regards,

Hi all,

Vs a wide 3bettor and LP vs SB dynamics I would always 4bet/call here. LP vs BB we can make more arguments for just flatting.

Originally posted by chenny8888
Hi all,

LP vs BB we can make more arguments for just flatting.

why?

I'd fold flop - i mean you are so obviously weak when you flat flop and there is so many hands he can barrel with.

Originally posted by TheRebuz

Originally posted by chenny8888
Hi all,

LP vs BB we can make more arguments for just flatting.

why?

I think generally people 3bet more from the SB than the BB. I know that I 3bet a lot less from the BB: with such a good discounted price and closing the action, 3betting is often unattractive by comparison.