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TJtheTJ
Joined: 12.10.2011

IPoker, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BB: $5.02 (100.4 bb)
UTG: $3.75 (75 bb)
MP: $4.62 (92.4 bb)
CO: $1.50 (30 bb)
BTN: $6.81 (136.2 bb)
Hero (SB): $5.77 (115.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 9
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.10, Hero raises to $0.35, BB calls $0.30, BTN folds

Flop: ($0.80) 5 J T (2 players)
Hero bets $0.45, BB raises to $1, Hero folds

Both villains are unknown.

I decided to 3bet this pre rather than call just to pick up the pot right here. I'm not sure if a call would be better though, against an unknown.

Looking back at it, I'm not sure if I should've cbet this board. It connects with his calling range really well, and even if I have him beat right now, he has a ton of equity against me.

What's the best line on this flop?


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

Hi.

Preflop: its often good to just not have a calling range in the sb. I like it.

Flop: what do u think bb's coldcalling range is? Maybe u can open equilab, click on all those hands, then unclick hands u think are folding and try to determine your fold equity here. My guess is that your FE here is only 20%


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TJtheTJ
Joined: 12.10.2011

I think it's very tough to know BB's coldcalling range is here, because I have absolutely no info on him. I would say most players at these limits would do this with pocket pairs, suited connectors and some big aces, maybe throw KQ in there as well. Of course some people may be much tighter, and some could be even looser.

I'm going to assume he 4bets QQ+,AK though. So let's say he has a cold calling range of something like this.

JJ-22,AQs-ATs,KQs,QJs,JTs,T9s,98s,87s,76s,AQo-AJo,KQo (114 hands)

That's fairly loose imo. So assuming he fold all his pocket pairs below TT (except 55 of course) and continues with second pair or better and draws, he continues with something like this:

JJ-TT,55,AQs-ATs+,KQs,QJs,JTs,T9s,98s,8d7d,7d6d,AQo-AJo,KQo (67 hands)

That means we have ~41% fold equity.

If he calls much tighter though, our fold equity plummets. If he coldcalls something like AJ/AQ/88-JJ (41 hands), then the only thing he's folding is 88 and 99, so we obviously have very little fold equity there (17%).

Even if he has a loose calling range though and folds relatively often (41% isn't too often imo), there's just so many bad turn cards. And A, K, Q or diamond is bad for us. Even a 9 isn't that great because one of the nines completes the flush draw, and a nine also completes KQ and 87dd. A 7 might be bad as well because it completes 98.

And of course, we are already behind against a number of hands as well (AJ/AT/JJ/TT/55/QJ/JT/T9). That's 31 hands that have us crushed already. And against the hands that we are ahead of, we're only a marginal favorite.

So I guess when you look at it that way, and have very little fold equity and not enough pot equity to make up for it, I guess it's just a check/fold.

If I'm approaching this the wrong way just tell me


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

Thats way too loose.

I thimk most people just call mid pairs 88-JJ and AQ, occasionally KQs and AJs.

So on this JTX board u are folding 88/99 and getting floated by AQ KQs AJs TT JJ.
Doesnt look like a good spot to me when u have 99 yourself.


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TJtheTJ
Joined: 12.10.2011

Yeah I agree. I guess I didn't phrase it correctly. I figured that if even against a very loose range it wouldn't be profitable to bet here, it would most certainly not be profitable against a much tighter (and more realistic) range.

So yep, I agree that it's a pretty spot with 99.

Thanks :)


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